Mark Williamson a écrit:
>Mark Williamson a écrit:
>
>>Hello Anthere,
>>
>>It has already been resolved that most likely censorship of the
>>Kurdish Wikipedia has been by individual netcafes, and not by the
>>government.
Do you have
facts to assert this ?
I did not see anything else than hearsay.
We have the statement of a ku.wikipedia contributor who confirms he
can access ku.wikipedia from his university, but not from a particular
netcafe.
Right....
Well, this is a fact (though no name is provided).
Now, this is also a collection of hasty generalization
Do not claim something is true when you do not cite evidence
Do not claim something is true over just one sample person experience
Do not draw conclusion of censorship when information is missing to draw
such a conclusion.
Also, such actions to censor minority language websites are
common in Turkish netcafes.
Do not generalized without citing facts.
Do not make appeal to pity by using the word minority out of context.
However I think I should make it very clear that I
think any such
involvement should be independent of Wikipedia or ODP officially, even
if some editors are involved.
Mark
Independant ? Hmmmm, somehow, I think that any
letter send with as a
signature the name of an editor and the link to his user page, is not
exactly what I would call independant.
Right, so if I sent a letter to the government of Turkey requesting
the release of H. Ertas, who was jailed just for editing a
Turkish-language Kurdish culture category (not as I said earlier a
category on terrorist groups) on DMOZ, there is some sort of
requirement that, as a Wikipedian, I sign it "Mark Williamson
(Wikipedia user Node_ue)"? There is life outside of Wikipedia, and
there is activism independent of Wikipedia. I do not sign letters with
my username and the fact that I am a Wikipedian unless it's relevant
to the letter itself.
Do not change topics. We are talking of Wikipedia access only, not of
the DMOZ issue.
If you want to be an activist out of Wikipedia, please be so, but do not
try to involve us in your advocacy.
Give it time.
Is this what you tell H. Ertas, who is going to spend the next ten
months in prison just for editing a culture category on DMOZ? "Give it
time, you will get out of prison eventually"?
And above all, avoid sneaky personal attacks.