A Wikipedia was requested for Cantonese. That was simple they
requested a language because it's too different from Mandarin, and
people would only benefit.
It didn't need to be complicated.
Besides, they would've had two sides to choose from, whichever they
preferred -- and yet it has not been created because there have been
issues, even though Cantonese has many more native speakers than Low
Saxon.
Regardless of actual differences, people are going to be a bit
hesitant to oblige a request that appears on the surface to be
dividing by country. Even if you do not believe it divides by country,
you must admit that it looks this way on the surface. Anybody who
reads the topic will see "nds-nl", and if they know that "nl" is a
country code will say "That doesn't sound right".
Also, in this case, as in any case, if the Wikipedia /is/ going to be
created, it will likely be a while. Scots and Võro were in a similar
situation -- actually better -- they had a few native speakers, a few
extra supporters, and growing test Wikipedias. Nobody seemed to
believe that the new Wikipedias shouldn't be created. And yet, it took
a long time between when they became such popular requests, and their
actual creation.
All I can suggest is to be patient.
Mark
On 15/07/05, Servien Ilaino <servien(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Okay are we now gonna have an endless discussion about
endless
discussions? It's simple we requested a language because it's too
different from the other dialects used in Germany, people will only
benefit, so I don't understand the whole thing. Why be complicated if
you don't have to? (besides then they'll 2 to choose from, which ever
they prefer)
Servien
2005/7/15, Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 7/15/05, Mark Williamson
<node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That's all fine with me, but for a problem
like this there's still no
end in sight.
True. That's why this policy needs to be moved out of its "proposed"
stage into something real.
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_policy_for_wikis_in_new_languages>
I don't think we should definite cases where
a Wikipedia *will* be
created, but I think we should define those cases in which it won't,
to reduce confusion and keep people aware of what not to do.
I agree. Perhaps cases where it won't could be documented at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_policy_for_wikis_in_new_langua…
in an attempt to find some sort of consensus on this issue. I would
rather have a vote on the general policy than a vote on every new
proposal.
Angela.
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