På 15. nov. 2004 kl. 21.42 skrev Ulf Lunde:
Hr. Lunde: It's two bloody letters god damn it. You have got your move now you start asking for more?
Hr. Alvik,
As long as "no:" does not prohibit contributions in nynorsk, I have no reason to request that it be moved to "nb:". And guess what? I never have!
Perhaps you haven't read my proposals? I have never been in favor of moving all articles away from "no:", nor have I supported (in Wikipeida-l, in the Wikipedia discussions, or anywhere else) a "move" of any current Wikipedias.
What proposals? I've read the first one, i havn't seen anyone since then, that's formulated as a proposal and not written between the lines.
I have advocated from the start to keep status quo for "no:", in the hope that it can remain what it is today: a common Norwegian Wikipedia.
However, it seems that a majority of people here would prefer a move.
I don't prefer a move, i was happy with the current situation. But since all the fuss started i suppose something should happend, i don't like to move it, but hey if it please the nynorsk people why not. I don't object to the move, since the interwikilinks wouldn't get messed up. But i strongly object to a splitting, it would fork the manpower and workhours and create total chaos.
Yes i'm probably alittle bit aggresive there, but hey, when you have put down so much work in something and someone suggest to do the polite version of killing it i tend to get a little bit upset.
You have my sympathy, and if "no:"-Wikipedia does suffer, I for one may take some of the blame, since "nb:" was my request. However, I doubt that a (second) split of "no:" will deter many Wikipedians from continuing to contribute. Some of them will shift their focus to either "nb:" or "nn:", that's all.
I think it is in everyone's interest that we square the naming and location issues while the Norwegian Wikipedias are still relatively small.
If no: were moved to nb:, I think it would be best for http://nb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noreg to redirect to http://nb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norge since it's an nb URL, so people will expect Bokmål.
I think so too.
No one disputes that. (I guess I did not include enough context in my previous reply. It should be read together with Olve Utne's preceding post.)
I think that "common" names should be redirected stright to bokmål, since that is the most used language.
It would be really convenient for bokmål if most people believed in that kind of reasoning, for that would certainly guarantee that bokmål would still be the bigger of the two, say, fifty years from now! (Self- fulfilling prophecy...)
*Choghs* Yeah right :P, nynorsk isn't excatly growing, with the sentralization going on and everything. Also Finnmark and Oslo is thinking about ditching their teaching in nynorsk as a side language. But, hey this is derailing.
If there is going to be change i certiantly support Utnes version, and being probably the only primary bokmålspeaking/writing (i accualy speak a dialect that's as bokmål as you get it, generic østlending, eventhough i've heard from nynorskusers that there's no such thing, but derailing) i think that ought to count for something.
mvh. Lars Alvik