På 15. nov. 2004 kl. 21.42 skrev Ulf Lunde:
Hr. Lunde:
It's two bloody letters god damn it. You have got your move
now you start asking for more?
Hr. Alvik,
As long as "no:" does not prohibit contributions in nynorsk, I have
no reason to request that it be moved to "nb:". And guess what?
I never have!
Perhaps you haven't read my proposals? I have never been in favor of
moving all articles away from "no:", nor have I supported (in
Wikipeida-l,
in the Wikipedia discussions, or anywhere else) a "move" of any current
Wikipedias.
What proposals? I've read the first one, i havn't seen anyone since
then, that's formulated as a proposal and not written between the
lines.
I have advocated from the start to keep status quo for
"no:", in the
hope
that it can remain what it is today: a common Norwegian Wikipedia.
However, it seems that a majority of people here would
prefer a move.
I don't prefer a move, i was happy with the current situation. But
since all the fuss started i suppose something should happend, i don't
like to move it, but hey if it please the nynorsk people why not. I
don't object to the move, since the interwikilinks wouldn't get messed
up. But i strongly object to a splitting, it would fork the manpower
and workhours and create total chaos.
Yes i'm
probably alittle bit aggresive there, but hey, when you have
put down so much work in something and someone suggest to do the
polite version of killing it i tend to get a little bit upset.
You have my sympathy, and if "no:"-Wikipedia does suffer, I for one
may take some of the blame, since "nb:" was my request. However,
I doubt that a (second) split of "no:" will deter many Wikipedians from
continuing to contribute. Some of them will shift their focus to
either
"nb:" or "nn:", that's all.
I think it is in everyone's interest that we square the naming and
location
issues while the Norwegian Wikipedias are still relatively small.
If no:
were moved to nb:, I think it would be best for
http://nb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noreg to redirect to
http://nb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norge
since it's an nb URL, so people will expect Bokmål.
I think so too.
No one disputes that. (I guess I did not include enough context in my
previous reply. It should be read together with Olve Utne's preceding
post.)
I think that "common" names should be
redirected stright to bokmål, since that is the most used language.
It would be really convenient for bokmål if most people believed in
that kind of reasoning, for that would certainly guarantee that bokmål
would still be the bigger of the two, say, fifty years from now!
(Self-
fulfilling prophecy...)
*Choghs* Yeah right :P, nynorsk isn't excatly growing, with the
sentralization going on and everything. Also Finnmark and Oslo is
thinking about ditching their teaching in nynorsk as a side language.
But, hey this is derailing.
If there is going to be change i certiantly support Utnes version, and
being probably the only primary bokmålspeaking/writing (i accualy speak
a dialect that's as bokmål as you get it, generic østlending,
eventhough i've heard from nynorskusers that there's no such thing, but
derailing) i think that ought to count for something.
mvh. Lars Alvik