With regards to the latest drivel Mark wrote I want to call on everyone
to boycott Mark. He is a pre-puberescant prick imho.
Waerth/Walter
Mark Williamson wrote:
If someone
argues for something without _any_ knowledge about cultures
which are included in that "something", (s)he is a fool. If (s)he is a
young person, (s)he can learn something in the future and stop being a
fool. If (s)he is a mature fool, it is better that society isolate
such person to prevent any further damage.
Alright, it seems quite clear that you're discussing me here without
mentioning names.
Again, you're assuming I don't have "_any_" knowledge of which
cultures are included.
As regards your "better that society isolate such person", that idea
strikes me as very Naziistic -- isolate all of the people who are a
harm to society as you judge them to be, even if it's something really
trivial or silly.
It's not as if people who do the things in questions are murderers, or
rapists, or even mentally insane.
If someone argues for something only because of
fun AND without any
knowledge about cultures which are included in that "something", (s)he
is NOT ONLY a fool, but a very dangerous person. If (s)he is a young
person, I hope that (s)he can learn something and that (s)he would not
be such person in the future. For such adult persons I think that the
less damage is to kill her/him than to wait to see mass graves because
of such "Innocent games".
First of all, as I noted many times before, this discussion is _not_
for fun. Your continued insistence to the contrary seems to me to be
an attempt to mock the glorious people of Mt Zlatibor, making you an
anti-Zlatiborian. For that, you will not be judged kindly when the day
of judgement is upon us.
It strikes me as anti-human to propose KILLING any adult who argues in
a joking manner and without any knowledge about it... Really, that's
just plain SADISTIC. Insane, really. If anybody needs their head
checked, I'd say it's you -- talking an awful lot about killing people
here where it's not really relevant to the topic at hand.
Neoliberal social POV is the biggest bullshit as I
know. (And Mark is
highly influenced with that kind of bullshit.) It is trying to merge
cultures without any knowledge about these cultures. This is the clear
example of colonialist behaviour which is deep in the souls of
(almost) all Westerners.
Nobody said anything about trying to merge _cultures_. There are not
Wikipedias for _cultures_. Wikipedias are created for LANGUAGES.
Languages and cultures are two very separate entities. Spanish is
spoken by the majority of Mexicans as well as the majority of
Spaniards, and yet their cultures are as different as night and day.
Portuguese is shared between Portugal and Brasil, and yet they are
very amazingly different. The differences reflected within the
Francophonie, the Commonwealth, the CIS, and other such groups of
places based on the languages they share are also extreme.
Language can be either a tool to unite or divide. Now, it is
linguistically impossible that 20 years ago, there was one language,
and today, it is 3. The process is much, much, slower than that.
Separate cultures, sure -- Bosnian and Croatian cultures are clearly
very different. But separate languages -- definitely not, it's a
ludicrous suggestion.
And this is not related only to Balkans... I saw
the same conversation
about Low Saxon. Even it is reasonable to start to work on
computational translator between Dutch and German one, it is not
reasonable to force people to work together in this moment. The same
is for Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian Wikipedias.
What was it you said earlier about arguing about things we don't know
about? If you don't want to be a hypocrite, perhaps you should recuse
yourself as regards Low Saxon.
And someone is making an irony about our problems?
And (s)he is far a
way of our problems?
Let me guess -- their skulls should be bashed in? They should be
killed? Or some other similarly sadistic and gruesome fate which is
clearly undeserved for an offense so minor??
Mark
--
"Take away their language, destroy their souls." -- Joseph Stalin
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