I was describing to someone how Wikipedia works:
"anyone can edit" etc.
He answered with this argument:
"Wikipedia is the triumph of the average person!
of the man in the street!)"
(average meaning: not good, not bad, just OK)
I asked "why?"
His explanation:
"Great brilliant works are built by individuals.
Groups of people can only create average works.
If someone writes something good in the wiki,
other average persons will intervene with his/her
work and turn it into an average work. If someone
writes something bad in the wiki, the others will
again turn it into something of average value.
with your system (meaning: Wikipedia's system)
you can be sure that you will never create
something too bad but also never something too
good. You can create only average articles."
The idea behind his argument was that Wikipedia
will be a good resource as long as it attracts
good cotnributors. but it will soon become an
average site/encyclopaedia because it allows
anyone to join the project and edit, and most
people are just average persons and not brilliant
writers.
Do you think it's true? and how can we answer
this argument?
--Optim
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On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote:
> What are the articles this person has been changing?
For 66.108.155.126:
20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet
20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root
20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
For 208.24.115.6:
20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
For 141.157.232.26:
20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements.
Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker.
For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist
and look at the contribs.
--mav
Hello, as you may or may not already know there will be a datacentre
switch back to Eqiad, WMF's main data centre, on May 3rd at approximately
14:00 UTC. For approximately 20-30 minutes you will NOT be able to save
edits to any WMF project. If you have any questions feel free to reply back
to this email, or ask on IRC on freenode channel #wikimedia-tech. If there
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Thanks,
Zppix
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www.enwp.org/User:Zppix
Dear Wikipedians:
Recently, there was an election in Goa, India. The party which lost
ascended power, because some of the smaller parties that won a few seats
each (and Independents too) changed their earlier stance and decided
decided to support the former.
This lead to debate and criticism here.
Please visit the page on the Goa Forward Part [
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_Forward_Party], a local political party,
a page which I initially helped build.
Somewhere along the way, following a few anonymous and signed edits, the
page has got changed rather drastically. See the changes between:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goa_Forward_Party&type=revision&…
The content and context has been changed rather drastically, and in my view
some parts of the new page reads like official PR sheet of the party
itself. A few important critical sections have been completely deleted,
while an unsigned comment on the Talk page argues that the article is being
"edited to make it more up-to-date" and some sections "appear too
elaborate and unnecessary".
My questions are:
* How does Wikipedia check edits which might change an entry drastically
while claiming to improve it, specially in a context where there might be
only few Wikipedia volunteer editors working in a particular region?
* In case politicians get assistance -- paid or otherwise -- to do some
window-dressing of their entries, how is this to be tackled?
* Given that regions like India have a lot of techie skills (but only few
volunteers), and the social media is being widely (mis)used to fight
political sides, does the Wikipedia have any best practices to understand
how such issues could be coped with?
Thanks and regards,
Fredericknoronha
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Just a reminder that all WMF projects will be read-only April 19th at
approximately 14:00 (UTC) for about 20-30 minutes then again May 3rd at
the same time. If you have any issues that occur that are important during
these times please notify operations in IRC at
www.webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-tech . Please note
#wikimedia-operations will be moderated therefore only Operations team
members will be able to chat in this channel for the duration of the switch
over process.
Thanks,
Zppix
Volunteer Developer for WMF (non employee)
Enwiki Editor
enwp.org/user:Zppix
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> From: Faidon Liambotis <faidon(a)wikimedia.org>
> Date: April 7, 2017 at 8:58:09 AM CDT
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] eqiad->codfw datacenter switchover, weeks of Apr 17th/May 1st
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> Hi all,
>
> You may have heard already that, like last year, we are planning to
> switch our active datacenter from eqiad to codfw in the week of April
> 17th and back to eqiad two weeks later, on the week of May 1st. We do
> this periodically in order to exercise our ability to run from the
> backup site in case of a disaster, as well as our ability to switch
> seamlessly to it with little user impact.
>
> Switching will be a gradual, multi-step process, the most visible step
> of which will be the switch of MediaWiki application servers and
> associated data stores. This will happen on April 19th (eqiad->codfw)
> and May 3rd (codfw->eqiad), both at 14:00 UTC. During those windows, the
> sites will be placed into read-only mode, for a period that we estimate
> to last approximately 20 to 30 minutes.
>
> Furthermore, the deployment train will freeze for the weeks of April
> 17th and May 1st[1], but operate normally on the week of April 24th, in
> order to exercise our ability to deploy code while operating from the
> backup datacenter.
>
> 1: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments
>
> Compared to last year we have improved our processes considerably[2], in
> particular by making more services operate in an active/active manner,
> as well as by working on an automation and orchestration framework[3] to
> perform parallel executions across the fleet. The core of the MediaWiki
> switchover will be performed semi-automatically using a new software[4]
> that will execute all the necessary commands in sequence with little
> human involvement, and thus lowering the risk of introducing errors and
> delays.
>
> 2: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Switch_Datacenter
> 3: https://github.com/wikimedia/cumin
> 4: https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-switchdc
>
> Improving and automating our processes means that we're not going to be
> following the exact same steps as last year. Because of that, and
> because of other changes introduced in our environment over the course
> of the year, there is a possibility of errors creeping into the process.
> We'll certainly try to fix any issues that arise during those weeks and
> we'd like to ask everyone to be on high-alert and vigilant.
>
> To report any issues, please use one of the following channels:
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Greetings,
Have you seen that stuff before? You should check it out, it is absolutely awesome, here, take a look http://kettlebellmaster.co.uk/unfold.php?0203
My best to you, alex.here