Wikipedia-l December 2011

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comment on wikipedia
by Optim 15 Aug '24

15 Aug '24

I was describing to someone how Wikipedia works: "anyone can edit" etc. He answered with this argument: "Wikipedia is the triumph of the average person! of the man in the street!)" (average meaning: not good, not bad, just OK) I asked "why?" His explanation: "Great brilliant works are built by individuals. Groups of people can only create average works. If someone writes something good in the wiki, other average persons will intervene with his/her work and turn it into an average work. If someone writes something bad in the wiki, the others will again turn it into something of average value. with your system (meaning: Wikipedia's system) you can be sure that you will never create something too bad but also never something too good. You can create only average articles." The idea behind his argument was that Wikipedia will be a good resource as long as it attracts good cotnributors. but it will soon become an average site/encyclopaedia because it allows anyone to join the project and edit, and most people are just average persons and not brilliant writers. Do you think it's true? and how can we answer this argument? --Optim __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] multi-headed VANDALS
by Daniel Mayer 18 Jan '23

18 Jan '23

On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote: > What are the articles this person has been changing? For 66.108.155.126: 20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer 20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit 20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL 20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet 20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root 20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment 19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music 19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music For 208.24.115.6: 20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker For 141.157.232.26: 20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements. Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker. For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist and look at the contribs. --mav

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Language policy agreement in the Norwegian Wikipedia community
by Bjarte Sørensen 01 Apr '12

01 Apr '12

Dear all, Most of you would be aware of some of the discussions that have occurred around Wikipedia in the Norwegian languages. Since the last round of discussions on this list, there has been a lot of internal debate, as well as what seems to be a fairly widely accepted agreement following voting. This e-mail intends to, after a brief recap on Norwegian language and wikipedia issues, take those interested through the latest development and will stake out the road ahead. It is also intended to inform the international community about the current agreement on no.wikipedia, so as to prevent misunderstandings in the future. Finally, we will mention an unfortunate reaction to the vote by a small number of users at the Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål (no:) wikipedia who want to disregard the result of the voting and are planning to create a _third_ Norwegian wikipedia with the sole mission of mixing the contents of the two current Norwegian versions. == A short language history of Norway == Spoken Norwegian ("norsk") (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "no") is in a fairly unique situation compared to most other languages of the world in that it has two widely accepted written standards, Bokmål (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "nb") and Nynorsk (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "nn"). By national legislation they are both regarded as official written forms of Norwegian. In addition, many people still make a distinction between Bokmål and its precursor which still is in use, Riksmål. Briefly speaking, Bokmål and Riksmål are descendants of the Danish written language. Until the 1800s, Danish was the only widely used written language in Norway as a result of four centuries of union with Denmark. With increasing independence came a wish to norwegianise the Danish standard, with Knud Knudsen at the forefront for changing parts of the vocabulary and orthographics. Thus, Riksmål, and later Bokmål, resulted. These forms together are today probably used by about 90% of Norway's population, or somewhere around 3,500,000 people. Parallel to this development, a new written standard was created by Ivar Aasen. He travelled extensively throughout Norway, and based his new language, landsmål, on the grammar and vocabulary of dialect samples from around the country. This was later renamed Nynorsk. Modern Nynorsk differs significantly from modern Bokmål, and may be linguistically looked upon as as different (or as similar if you like) as Swedish is to Danish. For English or Dutch/German speakers, the differences may be likened to those between (Lowland) Scots and English or Low German and Dutch. Today it is estimated that about 500,000-600,000 people have Nynorsk as their first written language. More information about the Norwegian language history can be found in English, German, French, Spanish or Portuguese on the website of the Norwegian Language Council: http://www.sprakrad.no/templates/Page.aspx?id=653 == A short history of Wikipedia in Norwegian == The first Norwegian wikipedia started 26 November 2001 on the subdomain no.wikipedia.org. As most wikipedias, its contributor and article count started really picking up around the end of 2003. At the time, it accepted all written standards of Norwegian, although the amount of Nynorsk was minimal. There were already several debates about the feasibilty and appropriateness of keeping the two languages united on one Wikipedia. On 31 July 2004 a Wikipedia for Nynorsk was created. The creation of nn:, however, split the community at no: wikipedia. Many felt that given that Nynorsk now had its own wikipedia, no: should become a Bokmål/Riksmål Wikipedia only. Others disapproved and claimed that there was no need to change and that it should continue its language policy of accepting all and keep its interwiki link name of "Norsk". Nynorsk Wikipedia soon proved a success, as it within the next few months gathered several people who had felt uncomfortable in the (mainly) Bokmål environment at no:. The name displayed in interwiki links became "Norsk (nynorsk)" (languages are not spelt with upper case in Norwegian). To date it continues to be one of the fastest growing wikipedias, with a steady article increase, now at over 6000 articles and >50 editors with more than 10 edits since arrival. == Votes == The issue of no:'s language policy has come up time and again, and a vote was held in March ([[:no:Wikipedia:Målform]]) as to which policy to adapt. Independent of the method of the tally (whether or not to include new contributors etc.) there was a majority for switching to a Bokmål/Riksmål only language policy (50% for Bokmål/Riksmål, 43.2% for Bokmål/Riksmål/Nynorsk/Høgnorsk, and 6.8% for the official variants Bokmål/Nynorsk only). Following this result, there is now going to be a vote on which interwiki link name will most appropriately reflect the current language policy of no:. The result of this vote will most likely be either "Norsk (bokmål)" or "Norsk (bokmål/riksmål)". Understandably, there has also been a debate as to whether the subdomain should change from "no" to "nb", as this is the correct representation of Bokmål according to ISO 639-2. However, there is some resentment towards such a move and currently a general acceptance in letting the Bokmål wikipedia stay at "no". The alternative some have suggested is a server-side redirect from "no" to "nb", in the same way that "nb" today is a server-side redirect to the equivalent page on "no". == Summary of the problem == Unfortunately, a small group of users (who all write Bokmål/Riksmål) are ignoring the results from the vote, and are claiming they want to re-establish a wikipedia for all written standards of Norwegian. They claim they have been in touch with people centrally in Wikimedia (developers? stewards?) and that they have so far received positive comments. With this email, we would like to state the fact that there have been no official decisions about creating a third Norwegian wikipedia containing both Bokmål and Nynorsk, it is merely an unofficial initiative from a small group of users which started a sign-on list at [[:no:Bruker:Norsk_Wikipedia]]. A spontaneous list with signatures against this activity was immediately created at [[:no:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Fellesnorsk]]. The process of creating a third Norwegian wikipedia has not gone through a voting process in any of the two existing Norwegian wikipedias (no: and nn:) and can not be considered as a decision by the Norwegian Wikipedia community. We believe the creation of a third wikipedia under the Wikimedia foundation would have a serious and unfortunate impact on the existing wikipedias in Norwegian, no: and nn:, and would undermine Wikipedia's reputation in Norway. This being said, we are all for extensive co- operation between the four Scandinavian language wikipedias (including Swedish and Danish), as evident by the recent creation of [[:meta:Skanwiki]], the Scandinavian meta-pages, and the use of featured articles from neighbour wikipedias. == Conclusion == Hopefully, this letter will help people better understand the complicated language situation of the Norwegian Wikipedia community, so as to give a background on which discussion can take place on this list in the future, such as the inevitable debate following a possible request for a re-establishment of the common (and third!) Norwegian Wikipedia. >From the community of no.wikipedia.org and nn.wikipedia.org, Bjarte Sørensen [[:meta:User:BjarteSorensen]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on nn:) Lars Alvik [[:no:User:Profoss]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on no:) Øyvind A. Holm [[:no:User:Sunny256]] (Administrator on no:) Onar Vikingstad [[:no:User:Vikingstad]] (Administrator on no:) Jon Harald Søby [[:no:User:Jhs]] (Administrator on no:) Chris Nyborg [[:no:User:Cnyborg]] (Administrator on no:) Guttorm Flatabø [[:no:User:Dittaeva]] (Administrator on nn:) Gunleiv Hadland [[:meta:User:Gunnernett]] (Administrator on nn:) Jarle Fagerheim [[:nn:User:Jarle]] (Administrator on nn:) Øyvind Jo Heimdal Eik [[:en:User:Pladask]] (Administrator on nn: and no:) Kristian André Gallis [[:nn:User:Kristaga]] Vegard Wærp [[:no:User:Vegardw]] Nina Aldin Thune [[:no:User:Nina]] Thor-Rune Hansen [[:no:User:ThorRune]] Claes Tande [[:no:User:Ctande]] Arnt-Erik Krokaa [[:no:User:AEK]] Rune Sattler [[:no:User:Shauni]]

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
by deepak sapkale 13 Jan '12

13 Jan '12

Hi Gerard, I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges. Regards, deepak Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. From: gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani To: deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project. Thanks, Gerard On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkale <deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Gerard, I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write everything in support of the language on the request page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right? Regards, deepak sapkale Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. > From: gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100 > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani > > Hoi, > Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line is > that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator > project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time and in > the end reject the proposal. > Thanks, > Gerard > > On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkale <deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4 days as > > I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate more on > > your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I need to > > add to the page? > > > > Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am > > already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide support for > > it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them about > > the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from my > > side. > > > > Regards, > > > > Deepak Sapkale > > > > > > Home is behind > > The world ahead. > > And there are many paths to tread. > > Through shadow, > > To the edge of night > > Until the stars are all alight > > Mist and shadow > > Cloud and shade > > All shall fade > > All shall...fade. > > > > From: viswaprabha(a)gmail.com > > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530 > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language - > > Ahirani > > To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > CC: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com > > > > Very encouraging! > > Whole support for you, Ahirani! > > Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear! > > :) > > -Viswam > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is > > completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and people > > interested in working on this language. > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the support > > for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration exactly > > like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks > > before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have it > > implemented on translatewiki.net. > > > > > > > > > > When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that it > > is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani (and any > > other language) really helps. > > http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team > > > > > > > > Thanks, Gerard > > > > On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkale <deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L > > & T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really > > inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The > > language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which > > used for Hindi and Marathi languages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Deepak Sapkale > > > > contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 > > > > mobile no: +91-9920997888 > > > > > > > > Home is behind > > > > The world ahead. > > > > And there are many paths to tread. > > > > Through shadow, > > > > To the edge of night > > > > Until the stars are all alight > > > > Mist and shadow > > > > Cloud and shade > > > > All shall fade > > > > All shall...fade. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikipedia-l mailing list > > > > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > > > Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikipedia-l mailing list > > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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Creation of a new Wikipedia - Berber language (native name: Tamazight)
by Tussna . 16 Dec '11

16 Dec '11

Hoi iedereen / Hi all, I've been reading your e-mails on Ahirani Wikipedia creation. And I wanted to raise questions about the Berber Wikipedia project: *Wp/ber* The proposal for a Berber Wikipedia (with the code: *ber*, *ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-5*) was rejected a while ago because Berber doesn't have an ISO 639-3 code. Although, it does have ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-5. The Wikipedia board argued that Berber "is not a language but is a language group". The fact is: it is both. The Wikipedia board advised to start multiple Berber Wikipedias for the dozen of Berber dialects which do have ISO 639-3 codes (like Wp/rif, Wp/shi, Wp/kab, and Wp/tzm). Some call them "languages" because they have the ISO codes and thus have the status of "language". But the motivation is low for the Berber dialects. Now the Berber language (in its unified standard form) is official in the Moroccan constitution and is recognized as a national language in Algeria's constitution, and is taught in both countries' schools, there is a solid basis for considering it a language (not just a scholarly group of languages/dialects). So my questions are: -How do we convince the Wikipedia board to reconsider the Wp/ber project and approve it? -What about the option of "macro-language"? For example, the Arabic Wikipedia (which is written in a standard Arabic language that nobody really speaks in daily life) is based on the "macro-language" approach, eventhough there are tens of Arabic dialects (Egyptian Arabic, Iraqi Arabic, Saudi Arabic...), each one with its own ISO 639-3 language code. There is a lot of motivation and enthusiasm for the unified Berber language on Facebook and elsewhere. I personally know at least 5 people who can contribute to the Wp/ber project on a regular basis. The only thing that hinders them is the rejection of Wp/ber The Berber language is written using the Latin alphabet in Algeria and the Tifinagh (indigenous) alphabet in Morocco. I think it could be a double-alphabet Wikipedia like the Kurdish Wikipedia or the Serbian Wikipedia, where the same content is automatically and identically available in two alphabets. This is the link for the Wp/ber project: http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ber/Tasna_Tamezwarut In the following PDF link, you'll find an example of a standard pan-Berber specialized dictionary (published by Moroccan and French linguistic institutes): http://www.ircam.ma/doc/publica/vocabulaire_grammatical.pdf It's a Berber - English - French - Arabic dictionary of linguistics terminology. Best regards, Moubarik Belkasim <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l>

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
by deepak sapkale 11 Dec '11

11 Dec '11

Hi, Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4 days as I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate more on your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I need to add to the page? Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide support for it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them about the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from my side. Regards, Deepak Sapkale Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. From: viswaprabha(a)gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com Very encouraging! Whole support for you, Ahirani! Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear! :) -Viswam On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and people interested in working on this language.http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedi… In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the support for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration exactly like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have it implemented on translatewiki.net. When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that it is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani (and any other language) really helps.http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team Thanks, Gerard On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkale <deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Hi, I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L & T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which used for Hindi and Marathi languages. Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. Regards, Deepak Sapkale contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 mobile no: +91-9920997888 Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

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Creation of new language - Ahirani
by deepak sapkale 08 Dec '11

08 Dec '11

Hi, I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L & T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which used for Hindi and Marathi languages. Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. Regards, Deepak Sapkale contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 mobile no: +91-9920997888 Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 89, Issue 1
by Wolfgang Lucena 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

Wikipedia Greetings, Thank you very much for everything this web page has been done for investigators worldwide. Sincerely Wolfgang Lucena On 12/3/11, wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wikipedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikipedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikipedia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: (no subject) (Mihan Ma) > 2. Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey (Bo Xu) > 3. Re: Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey (Ken Cook) > 4. Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Lino Dial) > 5. Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Lino Dial) > 6. (no subject) (nithin14058) > 7. Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey (Bo Xu) > 8. Re: Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey (Lino Dial) > 9. Creation of new language - Ahirani (deepak sapkale) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:51:33 +0430 > From: Mihan Ma <mihan.ma(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] (no subject) > To: Wikipedia mailing list <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CAOzc4oKJZ28MJudcRe1jNOFSCq_+kR68u=6iWRuSwRe0GMVAwQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thanks > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > >> 2011/9/9 Mihan Ma <mihan.ma(a)gmail.com>: >> > Wikipedia in a new language >> >> Follow this procedure: >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni ? ?????? ????????? ?????????? >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> ??We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.? ? T. Moore? >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikipedia-l mailing list >> Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:18:51 +0800 (CST) > From: Bo Xu <boxu70(a)yahoo.com.cn> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > <1318951131.34145.YahooMailClassic(a)web15907.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear Wikipedian, > ? > We, Prof. Bo Xu at Fudan University in China and Prof. Dahui Li at > University of Minnesota Duluth, are interested in why and how people > contribute to Wikipedia. You could make an important contribution to this > research by completing a questionnaire at > http://labovitz.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3h4hthRyOWKxZVa.? The survey is > completely voluntary. All the data will be kept confidential. Your > assistance in answering this questionnaire is highly appreciated. > ? > Sincerely, > ? > Bo Xu > School of Management > Fudan University > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:28:16 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ken Cook <kenc38(a)aol.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia > Survey > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: <8CE5BC1B0FC16D5-500-8E1F8(a)webmail-m165.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > When attempting to go to the survey site I get this message: > "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to labovitz.us2.qualtrics.com > Suggestions: > > Go to qualtrics.?com > Try reloading the page > > Search on Google: > " > > > > What am I to do now? > > > Ken Cook > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Xu <boxu70(a)yahoo.com.cn> > To: wikipedia-l <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 4:19 am > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey > > > Dear Wikipedian, > > We, Prof. Bo Xu at Fudan University in China and Prof. Dahui Li at > University of > Minnesota Duluth, are interested in why and how people contribute to > Wikipedia. > You could make an important contribution to this research by completing a > questionnaire at http://labovitz.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3h4hthRyOWKxZVa. > The > survey is completely voluntary. All the data will be kept confidential. Your > assistance in answering this questionnaire is highly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > > Bo Xu > School of Management > Fudan University > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lino Dial <linoadial2001(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn > To: wikipedia <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <1948150563.3943420.1319152272958.JavaMail.app(a)ela4-app0133.prod> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Lino > > Lino Dial > Independent Health, Wellness and Fitness Professional > San Francisco Bay Area > > Confirm that you know Lino Dial: > https://www.linkedin.com/e/s99y68-gu0d7c55-2x/isd/4116504227/HA1MFgni/?hs=f… > > -- > You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: > http://www.linkedin.com/e/s99y68-gu0d7c55-2x/T6yzisoAXHQbmu2E56Gz2KoAXHQRqu… > > (c) 2011 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, > USA. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lino Dial <linoadial2001(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn > To: wikipedia <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <532812628.3869176.1319152272946.JavaMail.app(a)ela4-bed81.prod> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. > > - Lino > > Lino Dial > Independent Health, Wellness and Fitness Professional > San Francisco Bay Area > > Confirm that you know Lino Dial: > https://www.linkedin.com/e/s99y68-gu0d7c4v-56/isd/4116504227/HA1MFgni/?hs=f… > > -- > You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: > http://www.linkedin.com/e/s99y68-gu0d7c4v-56/T6yzisoAXHQbmu2E56Gz2KoAXHQRqu… > > (c) 2011 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, > USA. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 04:36:41 -0700 > From: nithin14058 <nithin14058(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] (no subject) > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > <CAAPNWYMynxUOiZFiUX2=C8qTNuY=FY4Uso0oYZE=+joTtd_inw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > nithin14058(a)gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:24:08 +0800 (CST) > From: Bo Xu <boxu70(a)yahoo.com.cn> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Cc: bxu(a)fudan.edu.cn > Message-ID: > <1320211448.50799.YahooMailClassic(a)web15905.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear Wikipedian, > ? > We, Prof. Bo Xu at Fudan University in China and Prof. Dahui Li at > University of Minnesota Duluth, are interested in why and how people > contribute to Wikipedia. You could make an important contribution to this > research by completing a questionnaire at > http://labovitz.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3h4hthRyOWKxZVa.? The survey is > completely voluntary. All the data will be kept confidential. Your > assistance in answering this questionnaire is highly appreciated. > ? > Sincerely, > ? > Bo Xu > School of Management > Fudan University > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:26:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Lino Dial <linoadial2001(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia > Survey > To: Wikipedia mailing list <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <1320341160.67255.YahooMailNeo(a)web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > The URL you submitted is incorrect or wrong website. > > Anyway : ?Here is info about me : > > Name : ?Lino A. Dial, M.D. > email : ?LinoADial2001(a)yahoo.com > > Education : ?B.S. and M.D. degrees from University of the Philippines. > Profession : ?California - licensed practicing physician. > Post graduate training : ?University of California teaching hospitals: > Children's and Adult Medical Center of San Francisco, California and > U.S. Veterans Administration Hospital. > Formerly on Active Duty as Physician, ?U.S. Navy, Medical Corps > > Then I became a victim of crimes of frauds committed by licensed > practicing physicians , hospital and lawyer in California. > > The total of 53 crimes committed against me started with : > > 1. ?Intentional falsification of hospital patient record of my patient > performed by ?Dr. ?Robert ?S. ?Blum, a licensed practicing Neurosurgeon. > > 2. ?The Hospital and entire Medical Staff of the hospital and the > hospital attorney covered up everything. > > I fought them all, for the civil and human rights of my patient, an old > woman from Oregon. ?I did not even knew the old lady but I defended > her because it was wrong for Dr. Blum to dictate a fraudulent surgical > consultation. ?Dr. ?Blum was not asked to see my patient in any way or form, > he ?just ?grabbed. > > 3. ?The hospital investigated me instead of Dr. Blum who falsified the > hospital patient medical records to get money from my patient. > > 4. ?During the hospital investigation, the hospital and medical staff > fabricated charges against me because, ?luckily, I practiced good medicine. > > Conclusion and recommendation of the hospital: > Dr. Lino Dial should not be re-appointed to the medical staff. > My hospital privileges were taken away after over ten years without > problems. > > 5. ?I requested a Judicial Hearing, per hospital bylaws. > The hospital granted the Judicial Hearing. > > 6. ?It took six months to prepare for the Judicial Hearing which was held > according to law. > > 53 crimes were committed by the physicians, hospital and hospital attorney > during the hearing which was held for three hours. > > Nine ( 9 ) California-licensed practicing physicians witnessed how they > committed the 53 crimes. > > The ?official court transcriber instantly recorded their crimes in the > 100 - page transcript of that hearing. > > After the hearing, the hospital and medical staff declared in writing that > the Judicial Hearing never took place, probably because crimes were > committed during the hearing. > > Examples of crimes committed during the hearing : > > 1. ?Dr. Peter ?E. ?Philbin, a Nephrologist was a physician witness. > > Dr. Philbin told lies, deceits, falsehoods and frauds while under oath, > on the witness stand, during the hearing.? > The intentional falsifications, misrepresentation of facts, willful > deliberate > perversion of truth that came out of the lying lips and mouth of Dr. Philbin > are well - preserved on : > page ? ?46 ? ?line ? ?18 > page ? ?47 ? ?line ? ?10 > page ? ?48 ? ?lines ? 1 , 2 , 11 , 12 , 28 > > of the 100 - page transcript of that hearing. > > 2. ?Dr. ?Leonard ?A. ?Brant, ?a ?Surgeon, ?a second witness for the > hospital. > > Dr. Brant told lies, deceits, falsehoods, frauds while under oath, > on the witness stand, during the hearing. > The intentional falsifications, wrongful criminal deceptions that came out > of the lying lips and mouth of Dr. Brant are well - preserved on : > > page ? ?80 ? ?line ? ?26 > page ? ?81 ? ?line ? ?15 > page ? ?81 ? ?line ? ?18 > page ? ?82 ? ?line ? ?2 > page ? ?82 ? ?lines ? 25 - 28 > page ? ?83 ? ?lines ? 1 - 7 > page ? ?83 ? ?line ? ? 5 > page ? ?83 ? ?lines ? ?6 - 7 > page ? ?84 ? ?lines ? 23 - 25 > page ? ?84 ? ?line ? ? 26 > page ? ?85 ? ?lines ? 12 - 13 > > of the 100 - page transcript of that hearing. > > 3. ?Attorney ?Steven ?V. ?Schnier > > senior partner in the Law firm of ?HANSON ?BRIDGETT ?LLP > 425 ?Market ?Street, ?26th floor > San Francisco, California ?94105 > Tel. ? ?877 - 342 - 6766 ?( toll free ) > http://www.hansonbridgett.com > > Attorney Schnier is among : > Best Lawyers in America ?( 1995 - 2011 ) > Northern ?California Super Lawyers ?( 2006 - 2011 ). > Had ?B.S. ?degree from University of California > Graduate of Stanford University Law School, Calif. > > The intentional falsifications, lies, deceits, and frauds that came out > of his lying lips and mouth were seen and heard by nine ( 9 ) > California - licensed practicing physicians and these were instantly > recorded by the official court transcriber on : > > page ? ?8 ? ?line ? ?26 > page ? ?8 ? ?lines ? 27 - 28 > page ? ?9 ? ?lines ? 1 - 3 > page ? ?14 ? lines ? ?24 - 25 > page ? ?15 ? line ? ? 26 > page ? ?24 ? lines ? ?18 - 19 > page ? ?41 ? line ? ? 13 > page ? ?41 ? line ? ? 15 - 16 > page ? ?41 ? line ? ? 21 > page ? ?56 ? lines ? ?16 - 17 > page ? ?58 ? line ? ? 13 > page ? ?60 ? lines ? ?21 - 22 > page ? ?61 ? lines ? ?6 - 9 > page ? ?66 ? lines ? ?7 , 8 , 9 , 10 > page ? ?66 ? lines ? ?20 , 25 , 26 > > of the 100 - page transcript of that hearing. > > These are published on the Internet. > > References: > > http://www.crimevictimspress.com > > http://www.googleblog.blogspot.com/LinoDial > > www.Facebook.com/LinoDial > > www.Twitter.com/LinoDial > > Thank you for your time, > > Dr. Dial > > > ________________________________ > From: Bo Xu <boxu70(a)yahoo.com.cn> > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Cc: bxu(a)fudan.edu.cn > Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:24 PM > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Invitation to Participate in Wikipedia Survey > > Dear Wikipedian, > ? > We, Prof. Bo Xu at Fudan University in China and Prof. Dahui Li at > University of Minnesota Duluth, are interested in why and how people > contribute to Wikipedia. You could make an important contribution to this > research by completing a questionnaire at > http://labovitz.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3h4hthRyOWKxZVa.? The survey is > completely voluntary. All the data will be kept confidential. Your > assistance in answering this questionnaire is highly appreciated. > ? > Sincerely, > ? > Bo Xu > School of Management > Fudan University > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 11:08:57 +0530 > From: deepak sapkale <deepak_sapkale(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani > To: <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <COL113-W4E5352554C0CE57845E87EFB70(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi, > > I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L & > T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really > inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The > language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which > used for Hindi and Marathi languages. > > Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. > > Regards, > > Deepak Sapkale > contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 > mobile no: +91-9920997888 > > Home is behind > The world ahead. > And there are many paths to tread. > Through shadow, > To the edge of night > Until the stars are all alight > Mist and shadow > Cloud and shade > All shall fade > All shall...fade. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > > End of Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 89, Issue 1 > ****************************************** > -- Sent from my mobile device

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