I was describing to someone how Wikipedia works:
"anyone can edit" etc.
He answered with this argument:
"Wikipedia is the triumph of the average person!
of the man in the street!)"
(average meaning: not good, not bad, just OK)
I asked "why?"
His explanation:
"Great brilliant works are built by individuals.
Groups of people can only create average works.
If someone writes something good in the wiki,
other average persons will intervene with his/her
work and turn it into an average work. If someone
writes something bad in the wiki, the others will
again turn it into something of average value.
with your system (meaning: Wikipedia's system)
you can be sure that you will never create
something too bad but also never something too
good. You can create only average articles."
The idea behind his argument was that Wikipedia
will be a good resource as long as it attracts
good cotnributors. but it will soon become an
average site/encyclopaedia because it allows
anyone to join the project and edit, and most
people are just average persons and not brilliant
writers.
Do you think it's true? and how can we answer
this argument?
--Optim
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On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote:
> What are the articles this person has been changing?
For 66.108.155.126:
20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet
20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root
20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
For 208.24.115.6:
20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
For 141.157.232.26:
20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements.
Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker.
For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist
and look at the contribs.
--mav
Dear all,
Most of you would be aware of some of the discussions that have occurred
around Wikipedia in the Norwegian languages. Since the last round of
discussions on this list, there has been a lot of internal debate, as
well as what seems to be a fairly widely accepted agreement following
voting.
This e-mail intends to, after a brief recap on Norwegian language and
wikipedia issues, take those interested through the latest development
and will stake out the road ahead. It is also intended to inform the
international community about the current agreement on no.wikipedia, so
as to prevent misunderstandings in the future.
Finally, we will mention an unfortunate reaction to the vote by a small
number of users at the Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål (no:) wikipedia who want
to disregard the result of the voting and are planning to create a
_third_ Norwegian wikipedia with the sole mission of mixing the contents
of the two current Norwegian versions.
== A short language history of Norway ==
Spoken Norwegian ("norsk") (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "no") is in a fairly
unique situation compared to most other languages of the world in that
it has two widely accepted written standards, Bokmål (ISO 639-2 alpha-2
code "nb") and Nynorsk (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "nn"). By national
legislation they are both regarded as official written forms of
Norwegian. In addition, many people still make a distinction between
Bokmål and its precursor which still is in use, Riksmål.
Briefly speaking, Bokmål and Riksmål are descendants of the Danish
written language. Until the 1800s, Danish was the only widely used
written language in Norway as a result of four centuries of union with
Denmark. With increasing independence came a wish to norwegianise the
Danish standard, with Knud Knudsen at the forefront for changing parts
of the vocabulary and orthographics. Thus, Riksmål, and later Bokmål,
resulted. These forms together are today probably used by about 90% of
Norway's population, or somewhere around 3,500,000 people.
Parallel to this development, a new written standard was created by Ivar
Aasen. He travelled extensively throughout Norway, and based his new
language, landsmål, on the grammar and vocabulary of dialect samples
from around the country. This was later renamed Nynorsk. Modern Nynorsk
differs significantly from modern Bokmål, and may be linguistically
looked upon as as different (or as similar if you like) as Swedish is to
Danish. For English or Dutch/German speakers, the differences may be
likened to those between (Lowland) Scots and English or Low German and
Dutch. Today it is estimated that about 500,000-600,000 people have
Nynorsk as their first written language.
More information about the Norwegian language history can be found in
English, German, French, Spanish or Portuguese on the website of the
Norwegian Language Council:
http://www.sprakrad.no/templates/Page.aspx?id=653
== A short history of Wikipedia in Norwegian ==
The first Norwegian wikipedia started 26 November 2001 on the subdomain
no.wikipedia.org. As most wikipedias, its contributor and article count
started really picking up around the end of 2003. At the time, it
accepted all written standards of Norwegian, although the amount of
Nynorsk was minimal. There were already several debates about the
feasibilty and appropriateness of keeping the two languages united on
one Wikipedia. On 31 July 2004 a Wikipedia for Nynorsk was created.
The creation of nn:, however, split the community at no: wikipedia. Many
felt that given that Nynorsk now had its own wikipedia, no: should
become a Bokmål/Riksmål Wikipedia only. Others disapproved and claimed
that there was no need to change and that it should continue its
language policy of accepting all and keep its interwiki link name of
"Norsk".
Nynorsk Wikipedia soon proved a success, as it within the next few
months gathered several people who had felt uncomfortable in the
(mainly) Bokmål environment at no:. The name displayed in interwiki
links became "Norsk (nynorsk)" (languages are not spelt with upper case
in Norwegian). To date it continues to be one of the fastest growing
wikipedias, with a steady article increase, now at over 6000 articles
and >50 editors with more than 10 edits since arrival.
== Votes ==
The issue of no:'s language policy has come up time and again, and a
vote was held in March ([[:no:Wikipedia:Målform]]) as to which policy to
adapt. Independent of the method of the tally (whether or not to include
new contributors etc.) there was a majority for switching to a
Bokmål/Riksmål only language policy (50% for Bokmål/Riksmål, 43.2% for
Bokmål/Riksmål/Nynorsk/Høgnorsk, and 6.8% for the official variants
Bokmål/Nynorsk only).
Following this result, there is now going to be a vote on which
interwiki link name will most appropriately reflect the current language
policy of no:. The result of this vote will most likely be either "Norsk
(bokmål)" or "Norsk (bokmål/riksmål)".
Understandably, there has also been a debate as to whether the subdomain
should change from "no" to "nb", as this is the correct representation
of Bokmål according to ISO 639-2. However, there is some resentment
towards such a move and currently a general acceptance in letting the
Bokmål wikipedia stay at "no". The alternative some have suggested is a
server-side redirect from "no" to "nb", in the same way that "nb" today
is a server-side redirect to the equivalent page on "no".
== Summary of the problem ==
Unfortunately, a small group of users (who all write Bokmål/Riksmål) are
ignoring the results from the vote, and are claiming they want to
re-establish a wikipedia for all written standards of Norwegian. They
claim they have been in touch with people centrally in Wikimedia
(developers? stewards?) and that they have so far received positive
comments. With this email, we would like to state the fact that there
have been no official decisions about creating a third Norwegian
wikipedia containing both Bokmål and Nynorsk, it is merely an unofficial
initiative from a small group of users which started a sign-on list at
[[:no:Bruker:Norsk_Wikipedia]]. A spontaneous list with signatures
against this activity was immediately created at
[[:no:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Fellesnorsk]]. The process of creating a third
Norwegian wikipedia has not gone through a voting process in any of the
two existing Norwegian wikipedias (no: and nn:) and can not be
considered as a decision by the Norwegian Wikipedia community.
We believe the creation of a third wikipedia under the Wikimedia
foundation would have a serious and unfortunate impact on the existing
wikipedias in Norwegian, no: and nn:, and would undermine Wikipedia's
reputation in Norway. This being said, we are all for extensive co-
operation between the four Scandinavian language wikipedias (including
Swedish and Danish), as evident by the recent creation of
[[:meta:Skanwiki]], the Scandinavian meta-pages, and the use of featured
articles from neighbour wikipedias.
== Conclusion ==
Hopefully, this letter will help people better understand the
complicated language situation of the Norwegian Wikipedia community, so
as to give a background on which discussion can take place on this list
in the future, such as the inevitable debate following a possible
request for a re-establishment of the common (and third!) Norwegian
Wikipedia.
>From the community of no.wikipedia.org and nn.wikipedia.org,
Bjarte Sørensen [[:meta:User:BjarteSorensen]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on nn:)
Lars Alvik [[:no:User:Profoss]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on no:)
Øyvind A. Holm [[:no:User:Sunny256]] (Administrator on no:)
Onar Vikingstad [[:no:User:Vikingstad]] (Administrator on no:)
Jon Harald Søby [[:no:User:Jhs]] (Administrator on no:)
Chris Nyborg [[:no:User:Cnyborg]] (Administrator on no:)
Guttorm Flatabø [[:no:User:Dittaeva]] (Administrator on nn:)
Gunleiv Hadland [[:meta:User:Gunnernett]] (Administrator on nn:)
Jarle Fagerheim [[:nn:User:Jarle]] (Administrator on nn:)
Øyvind Jo Heimdal Eik [[:en:User:Pladask]] (Administrator on nn: and no:)
Kristian André Gallis [[:nn:User:Kristaga]]
Vegard Wærp [[:no:User:Vegardw]]
Nina Aldin Thune [[:no:User:Nina]]
Thor-Rune Hansen [[:no:User:ThorRune]]
Claes Tande [[:no:User:Ctande]]
Arnt-Erik Krokaa [[:no:User:AEK]]
Rune Sattler [[:no:User:Shauni]]
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> 3. IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (Sean Whitton)
> 4. Re: IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (nick TIMMS)
> 5. Re: IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (Thomas Dalton)
> 6. Re: IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (nick TIMMS)
> 7. Re: IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (Thomas Dalton)
> 8. Re: IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (K. Peachey)
> 9. Re: IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements (nick TIMMS)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:14:27 -0700
> From: R.Gabriela Sanhueza G <invite+2earqmer(a)facebookmail.com>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Te agregu? como amigo en Facebook
> To: Wikipedia-l <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Hola, All:
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> Hace tiempo te invit? a unirte a Facebook y me gustar?a recordarte que, cuando te registres, podremos comunicarnos, compartir fotos, organizar grupos y eventos, y mucho m?s.
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> Message: 2
> Date: 3 Jun 2009 21:52:11 +0000
> From: "Gabriela Sanhueza" <skoost(a)skoost.com>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] A little gift - Gabriela
> To: "wikipedia-l(a)wikimedia.org" <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Gabriela Sanhueza belongs to Skoost and sent you a little gift.
>
> Click below to collect your gift:
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> sent from Skoost, the free goodies website.
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> This e-mail was sent to wikipedia-l(a)wikimedia.org on 6/3/2009 10:49:51 PM
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:03:17 +0100
> From: Sean Whitton <sean(a)silentflame.com>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>,
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> Wikimedia IRC community,
>
> I invite you to read the following announcement and then, if you wish
> to discuss it, join us on meta at
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:IRC/Group_Contacts/Noticeboard>.
>
> I am pleased to announce that the IRC Group Contacts team has been
> changed over to a new group with a strong manifesto. James Forrester,
> previously chair of the group, has stepped down due to real life
> commitments inhibiting him from being as active as he once was. On
> behalf of everyone who uses IRC I'd like to thank him for all the work
> he has put into the role, and personally I thank him for his guidance
> while I was deputy IRC Group Contact in fulfilling the role as best as
> possible; it was invaluable advice.
>
> With James leaving the post of chair, I have taken on this role and I
> now have three new deputies: Casey Brown [[m:User:Cbrown1023]] kibble
> on IRC, Filip Maljkovic [[m:User:Dungodung]] dungodung on IRC, and
> Ryan [[m:User:Rjd0060]] Rjd0060 on IRC. James and I, with the
> involvement of these three and a small team of other IRC
> representatives and functionaries, chose these three as people we know
> and trust enough to be able to work with, and as users who we feel
> suit the Group Contact role well, and of course who have the time and
> motivation to carry out the job.
>
> What is the role of the Group Contact, then, that I have just
> mentioned? We have set this down for ourselves far more rigorously
> than before. Over late 2008 to early 2009 the levels of service from
> James and I have been very poor compared to what is rightly expected
> by the community - we appreciate that things have been poor. So the
> new group has come up with ways of trying to engage with everyone
> involved in IRC more. We intend to try to touch base with our Channel
> Contacts significantly more often, first by encouraging them to join
> us in #wikimedia-ops (#wikimedia-irc has been closed and redirected to
> -ops to try and centralise discussion). They already do a great job
> but we feel they could benefit from greater support from the Group
> Contacts. We intend to be around more to be involved in discussions,
> but we are going to try and remain laid back in terms of using
> authority directly: the fact that power is delegated to channel
> contacts and their operator teams, we feel, is an important part of
> IRC running smoothly.
>
> On a technical note, I am in fact the only Group Contact recognised by
> freenode at the moment to perform technical actions like the setting
> of cloaks and taking over of inactive channels. We hope that freenode
> will get the other contacts approved soon but we have no ETA on this
> and the queue is roughly four years long. We have in the past received
> special treatment for being a large project on the network, but we
> haven't been told there's any reason why we'd get this this time. So
> for the moment please be patient while technical GC work is funnelled
> by the whole team to me. Our requests for the other GCs to be
> recognised have, however, been submitted into the queue.
>
> On another technical note, you may see the nick wmfgc around freenode
> - this is an account used to hold GC priviledges, since there are now
> many of us who may need access to it.
>
> We intend to hold a Group Contact Surgery, per [[m:IRC Group
> Contacts/Surgeries]], soon in order that issues from the community can
> be discussed with other IRC users and contacts around.
>
> All of the major IRC channel contacts and the IRC Group Contacts can
> now be reached on <irc-contacts(a)lists.wikimedia.org>.
>
> If you just need to contact a GC there is also
> <irc-contacts-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org>.
>
> Sean Whitton [[m:User:Sean Whitton]] seanw on IRC
> for the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts
>
> --
> Sean Whitton / <sean(a)silentflame.com>
> OpenPGP KeyID: 0x25F4EAB7
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:01:13 +0100
> From: nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <BLU142-W34C53BB2D83CD0859203BAAE420(a)phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> can you stop them from wikipedia from blocking please
>
> > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:03:17 +0100
> > From: sean(a)silentflame.com
> > To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediameta-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; textbook-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; incubator(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikiversity-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> >
> > Wikimedia IRC community,
> >
> > I invite you to read the following announcement and then, if you wish
> > to discuss it, join us on meta at
> > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:IRC/Group_Contacts/Noticeboard>.
> >
> > I am pleased to announce that the IRC Group Contacts team has been
> > changed over to a new group with a strong manifesto. James Forrester,
> > previously chair of the group, has stepped down due to real life
> > commitments inhibiting him from being as active as he once was. On
> > behalf of everyone who uses IRC I'd like to thank him for all the work
> > he has put into the role, and personally I thank him for his guidance
> > while I was deputy IRC Group Contact in fulfilling the role as best as
> > possible; it was invaluable advice.
> >
> > With James leaving the post of chair, I have taken on this role and I
> > now have three new deputies: Casey Brown [[m:User:Cbrown1023]] kibble
> > on IRC, Filip Maljkovic [[m:User:Dungodung]] dungodung on IRC, and
> > Ryan [[m:User:Rjd0060]] Rjd0060 on IRC. James and I, with the
> > involvement of these three and a small team of other IRC
> > representatives and functionaries, chose these three as people we know
> > and trust enough to be able to work with, and as users who we feel
> > suit the Group Contact role well, and of course who have the time and
> > motivation to carry out the job.
> >
> > What is the role of the Group Contact, then, that I have just
> > mentioned? We have set this down for ourselves far more rigorously
> > than before. Over late 2008 to early 2009 the levels of service from
> > James and I have been very poor compared to what is rightly expected
> > by the community - we appreciate that things have been poor. So the
> > new group has come up with ways of trying to engage with everyone
> > involved in IRC more. We intend to try to touch base with our Channel
> > Contacts significantly more often, first by encouraging them to join
> > us in #wikimedia-ops (#wikimedia-irc has been closed and redirected to
> > -ops to try and centralise discussion). They already do a great job
> > but we feel they could benefit from greater support from the Group
> > Contacts. We intend to be around more to be involved in discussions,
> > but we are going to try and remain laid back in terms of using
> > authority directly: the fact that power is delegated to channel
> > contacts and their operator teams, we feel, is an important part of
> > IRC running smoothly.
> >
> > On a technical note, I am in fact the only Group Contact recognised by
> > freenode at the moment to perform technical actions like the setting
> > of cloaks and taking over of inactive channels. We hope that freenode
> > will get the other contacts approved soon but we have no ETA on this
> > and the queue is roughly four years long. We have in the past received
> > special treatment for being a large project on the network, but we
> > haven't been told there's any reason why we'd get this this time. So
> > for the moment please be patient while technical GC work is funnelled
> > by the whole team to me. Our requests for the other GCs to be
> > recognised have, however, been submitted into the queue.
> >
> > On another technical note, you may see the nick wmfgc around freenode
> > - this is an account used to hold GC priviledges, since there are now
> > many of us who may need access to it.
> >
> > We intend to hold a Group Contact Surgery, per [[m:IRC Group
> > Contacts/Surgeries]], soon in order that issues from the community can
> > be discussed with other IRC users and contacts around.
> >
> > All of the major IRC channel contacts and the IRC Group Contacts can
> > now be reached on <irc-contacts(a)lists.wikimedia.org>.
> >
> > If you just need to contact a GC there is also
> > <irc-contacts-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org>.
> >
> > Sean Whitton [[m:User:Sean Whitton]] seanw on IRC
> > for the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts
> >
> > --
> > Sean Whitton / <sean(a)silentflame.com>
> > OpenPGP KeyID: 0x25F4EAB7
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:03:08 +0100
> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> 2009/6/11 nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> >
> > can you stop them from wikipedia from blocking please
>
> I'm sorry, that sentence doesn't make sense. Could you reword it?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:01:40 +0100
> From: nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <BLU142-W28B8311FE9954FE9332CF0AE420(a)phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> i have been to i have been vandleize some pages but i have not been doing this so they keep blocking me
>
> > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:03:08 +0100
> > From: thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com
> > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> >
> > 2009/6/11 nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> > >
> > > can you stop them from wikipedia from blocking please
> >
> > I'm sorry, that sentence doesn't make sense. Could you reword it?
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:10:00 +0100
> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> 2009/6/12 nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> >
> > i have been to i have been vandleize some pages but i have not been doing this so they keep blocking me
>
> That still makes no sense. Please write in proper sentences. If
> English isn't your first language, write in your first language and
> I'm sure someone will be able to translate.
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:47:55 +1000
> From: "K. Peachey" <p858snake(a)yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Thomas Dalton<thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2009/6/12 nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> >>
> >> i have been to i have been vandleize some pages but i have not been doing this so they keep blocking me
> >
> > That still makes no sense. Please write in proper sentences. If
> > English isn't your first language, write in your first language and
> > I'm sure someone will be able to translate.
>
> He's been misbehaving on a wiki so he got blocked there, and then he
> must of been misbehaving in the irc channel and got banned/quitened in
> there as well.
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:50:21 +0100
> From: nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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>
> i have not being misbehaving
>
> > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:47:55 +1000
> > From: p858snake(a)yahoo.com.au
> > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Thomas Dalton<thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 2009/6/12 nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> > >>
> > >> i have been to i have been vandleize some pages but i have not been doing this so they keep blocking me
> > >
> > > That still makes no sense. Please write in proper sentences. If
> > > English isn't your first language, write in your first language and
> > > I'm sure someone will be able to translate.
> >
> > He's been misbehaving on a wiki so he got blocked there, and then he
> > must of been misbehaving in the irc channel and got banned/quitened in
> > there as well.
> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:52:37 +0100
> From: nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> To: <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> i have been told that i have being changing and editing wiki but i have not being doing this
>
> > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:10:00 +0100
> > From: thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com
> > To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] IRC Group Contacts Rearrangements
> >
> > 2009/6/12 nick TIMMS <nickdali3(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> > >
> > > i have been to i have been vandleize some pages but i have not been doing this so they keep blocking me
> >
> > That still makes no sense. Please write in proper sentences. If
> > English isn't your first language, write in your first language and
> > I'm sure someone will be able to translate.
> >
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statistician. This position is specific to the English Wikipedia group
of email queues, but may be customized for other langauges/projects later.
If you have specific questions, feel free to email me directly, but I'd
like to keep general discussion on the lists to a minimum.
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Wikimedia IRC community,
I invite you to read the following announcement and then, if you wish
to discuss it, join us on meta at
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:IRC/Group_Contacts/Noticeboard>.
I am pleased to announce that the IRC Group Contacts team has been
changed over to a new group with a strong manifesto. James Forrester,
previously chair of the group, has stepped down due to real life
commitments inhibiting him from being as active as he once was. On
behalf of everyone who uses IRC I'd like to thank him for all the work
he has put into the role, and personally I thank him for his guidance
while I was deputy IRC Group Contact in fulfilling the role as best as
possible; it was invaluable advice.
With James leaving the post of chair, I have taken on this role and I
now have three new deputies: Casey Brown [[m:User:Cbrown1023]] kibble
on IRC, Filip Maljkovic [[m:User:Dungodung]] dungodung on IRC, and
Ryan [[m:User:Rjd0060]] Rjd0060 on IRC. James and I, with the
involvement of these three and a small team of other IRC
representatives and functionaries, chose these three as people we know
and trust enough to be able to work with, and as users who we feel
suit the Group Contact role well, and of course who have the time and
motivation to carry out the job.
What is the role of the Group Contact, then, that I have just
mentioned? We have set this down for ourselves far more rigorously
than before. Over late 2008 to early 2009 the levels of service from
James and I have been very poor compared to what is rightly expected
by the community - we appreciate that things have been poor. So the
new group has come up with ways of trying to engage with everyone
involved in IRC more. We intend to try to touch base with our Channel
Contacts significantly more often, first by encouraging them to join
us in #wikimedia-ops (#wikimedia-irc has been closed and redirected to
-ops to try and centralise discussion). They already do a great job
but we feel they could benefit from greater support from the Group
Contacts. We intend to be around more to be involved in discussions,
but we are going to try and remain laid back in terms of using
authority directly: the fact that power is delegated to channel
contacts and their operator teams, we feel, is an important part of
IRC running smoothly.
On a technical note, I am in fact the only Group Contact recognised by
freenode at the moment to perform technical actions like the setting
of cloaks and taking over of inactive channels. We hope that freenode
will get the other contacts approved soon but we have no ETA on this
and the queue is roughly four years long. We have in the past received
special treatment for being a large project on the network, but we
haven't been told there's any reason why we'd get this this time. So
for the moment please be patient while technical GC work is funnelled
by the whole team to me. Our requests for the other GCs to be
recognised have, however, been submitted into the queue.
On another technical note, you may see the nick wmfgc around freenode
- this is an account used to hold GC priviledges, since there are now
many of us who may need access to it.
We intend to hold a Group Contact Surgery, per [[m:IRC Group
Contacts/Surgeries]], soon in order that issues from the community can
be discussed with other IRC users and contacts around.
All of the major IRC channel contacts and the IRC Group Contacts can
now be reached on <irc-contacts(a)lists.wikimedia.org>.
If you just need to contact a GC there is also
<irc-contacts-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org>.
Sean Whitton [[m:User:Sean Whitton]] seanw on IRC
for the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts
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