Wikipedia-l April 2008

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Interwiki links in the Hebrew Wikipedia
by Amir E. Aharoni 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Hi, In the Hebrew Wikipedia we have a pretty thorough project to add relevant interwiki links to as many pages as possible. We have made a pretty good progress in it in the last few monhs, and i would like to share our experience. Interwiki links is an area which lacks proper inter-project cooperation, or at least that's the impression that i get. I am pretty sure that at least some of the Wikipedias in foreign languages have similar projects, but i couldn't find any relevant links to such local projects on Meta or at [[en:Help:Interlanguage links]] and i can't read that many languages. I strongly believe that positive cooperation in interwiki matters will be beneficial to all Wikimedia projects. Here's a link to an explanation in English about our project: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amire80/Interlanguage_links (It's a redirect through my userpage, to avoid possible problems with Hebrew characters in the URL.) Be bold! Any questions, corrections and suggestions are welcome. It is quite possible that after reading what we wrote there you'll say that we've got it all wrong - we want to hear it, too! I'll appreciate it, if you would post this to your local "village pump" / "cafeteria" / "taverna" / "discussion board" or whatever you call it. Don't hesitate to ask me for any assistance if you run into problems with Hebrew characters or anything else. Thanks for your attention. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni English - http://aharoni.wordpress.com Hebrew - http://haharoni.wordpress.com "We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace." - T. Moore

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] standardizing a language
by daniwo59＠aol.com 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Gerard is absolutely correct here. It may be the job of the WMF to create a record of all languages living and dead, but it is not the job of the WMF to create living languages from dead ones. D In a message dated 4/2/2008 1:58:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com writes: Hoi, You do not discover about a language when in the process you change it beyond recognition. The correct word for such an endeavour is called reconstruction. When we tell people we have a Wikipedia in a language and people turn to it in order to learn that language, we do them a disservice. This is quit against what the Wikimedia Foundation stands for because in this way we do not provide valid information. Thanks, GerardM **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

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standardizing a language
by James Robert Johnson 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Hey everyone, I usually troll on here, reading, but not participating in discussions, but I wanted to ask something. Old English is a dead language, yet has a living Wikipedia. For this wiki, we essentially use Early West Saxon, but the original language never had a single standard spelling. What does everyone think about using a standardized spelling for this language, as used in the Clark Hall dictionary of Anglo Saxon? I welcome any comments. James

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] standardizing a language
by modean52＠comcast.net 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Hi Mark, everyone, What has been the case was *basing the spelling on the dictionaries of Old English Made Easy, which is based on Clark Hall's Dictionary of Anglo-Saxon, as well as further expansion from the Bosworth and Toller dictionary. There was one spelling for one word, to attempt to avoid confusion for new readers. The spelling is early West Saxon. * macrons instead of accents for long vowels (I wasn't too much in favor of that, but that's over and done with) * avoid dotted c/g for compatibility and that the language rules essentially let you know when it is or isn't a palatal consonant *Use 'y' as a front vowel like German ü, not in place of 'i' and avoid 'ie' when 'i' is historically accurate Some scholars use late West Saxon, but that is a little more mixed, so we kept with Early West Saxon. This is the practice for about 4 years now on the OE wiki. James -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mark Williamson" <node.ue(a)gmail.com> > And I think that is what somebody else is doing on this thread. > > The Old English Wikipedia exists, it is not going anywhere soon, so > let's stop criticising it, shall we? > > Now, what is the standard for writing Old English within the scholarly > community? If there is no consensus, which system is the most widely > used? There is your answer. > > Mark > > On 02/04/2008, Mike R <tacodeposit(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:39 AM, James Robert Johnson > > <modean52(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > I usually troll on here, reading, but not participating in > > > discussions, > > > > > > The word is "lurk." "Troll" means something else. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikipedia-l mailing list > > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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