Wikipedia-l October 2006

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About featured articles on English Wikipedia
by Milos Rancic 27 Oct '06

27 Oct '06

It is possible that article about Belgrade passes featured article nomination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Belgrade). My question is: May we target some date, so we can make some promotion here in Belgrade/Serbia as Wikimedia Serbia? Also, it opens similar questions about other featured articles on en...? (Also, it is not related only to English Wikipedia.) May we have some coordination?

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Wish List
by sigmaman 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Mr Wales wanted it, so I am going to give him mine... For me, I see two main areas where the money could be spent: 1- Text books copyright buyouts. Primarily historical reference material. 2- Commisioning original photographic and illustrative content for Wikipedia (under the SA or GFDL, of course). Let's face, $100 million can buy a lot of stuff. Certain established text books being licensed under a SA license would do a world of good.

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(no subject)
by jam＠croftj.net 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

GerardM wrote: > Hoi, > For some of the newly created wikipedias there are reasons why I would not > create them as languages in WiktionaryZ in this manner > They are: > > http://roa-tara.wikipedia.org/ Tarantino > http://cbk-zam.wikipedia.org/ Zamboanga Chavacano > http://zh-classical.wikipedia.org/ Classical Chinese > http://cu.wikipedia.org/ Old Church Slavonic > http://ru-sib.wikipedia.org/ Siberian/Nort Russian > > > - Tarantino is supposed to use the roa code. This code does not > signify anything but that it is a Romance language. The code does specify > what is included in the code and Tarantino is not one of them. > - In ISO-639-3 cbk is the code for Chavacano. ZamboangueÃ±o is an > alternative name.. > - For Classical Chinese there is no specificity as what is meant by > this. This is also easy to explain as the zh (zho) code itself is > depreciated in the ISO-639-3 because there are some 10 languages that are > included in this code. > - I might include the Old Church Slavonic as chu. It is used as > liturgical language of various Orthodox and Byzantine Catholic churches. It > is considered extinct. > - The ru-sib is a created language. It is a bad idea to create a code > as if it is a dialect of the Russian language when it is not. > > Thanks, > GerardM Gerard, Chavacano/Chabacano has different varieties or dialects including ZamboangueÃ±o, the dialect with the largest number of speakers. Although cbk is the ISO code, we decided to go with cbk-zam to distiguish Chavacano de Zamboanga from the CaviteÃ±o, TernateÃ±o and other varieties which are almost extinct. cbk alone is ambiguous. ZamboangueÃ±o, the alternative name is also ambiguous because it can mean both the residents of Zamboanga City, Philippines and the dialect of this creole language. Therefore, cbk-zam is fit to be the non-standardized ISO for Chavacano de Zamboanga wikipedia (http://cbk-zam.wikipedia.org) Muchisimas Gracias. Weekeejames -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Password reminder limits
by Tim Starling 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

As promised [1], password reminder limits are now effective on all Wikimedia projects. There is a limit of one password reminder per user per 24-hour period, and 5 password reminders per IP per hour. -- Tim Starling [1] http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-October/039494.html

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Some nice pieces in the Chronicle of Higher Ed
by SJ 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

One long article and a few short essays color the current/upcoming Chronicle of Higher Education. They draw on Wikimania, interview academics interested in contributing (notably Alex Halavais of ancient misinformation-study infamy, and Elijah Meeks), profs on using WP as a reference, Jimbo and Larry Sanger. Overall, well researched if sparing of detail. http://chronicle.com/free/v53/i10/10a03101.htm "Can Wikipedia Ever Make the Grade?" http://chronicle.com/weekly/v53/i10/10a03501.htm "Co-Founder of Wikipedia, Now a Critic, Starts Spinoff With Academic Editors" If you want to ask any questions of Halavais in person, there will be a live online chat (CHE 2.0?!) Thursday at 3pm EST: http://chronicle.com/live/2006/10/halavais/ ++SJ

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Dream a little...
by Don Green 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

I wonder if $100 million dollars could change the law itself in the US... that could free up a lot of resources especially ones that are orphaned. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx

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Re: Dream a little...
by Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

Jimmy Wales jwales at wikia.com wrote: > I would like to gather from the community some examples of works you > would like to see made free, works that we are not doing a good job of > generating free replacements for, works that could in theory be > purchased and freed. I'd like to suggest buying Mickey Mouse and Donal Duck, so they'll finally become public domain and, with some luck, maybe Disney will stop screwing around with copyright law. Does anyone else agree? Best regards, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves

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Re : Dream a little...
by Traroth 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

Translations of free content. Public domain works are available in many languages, but usually the translation are still copyrighted and no free translation exists. In result, free content would exists in other languages than english, french, german, spanish and some few other languages. Traroth ----- Message d'origine ---- De : Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia.com> À : wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org; commons-l(a)wikimedia.org Envoyé le : Dimanche, 15 Octobre 2006, 17h27mn 41s Objet : [Wikipedia-l] Dream a little... I would like to gather from the community some examples of works you would like to see made free, works that we are not doing a good job of generating free replacements for, works that could in theory be purchased and freed. Dream big. Imagine there existed a budget of $100 million to purchase copyrights to be made available under a free license. What would you like to see purchased and released under a free license? Photos libraries? textbooks? newspaper archives? Be bold, be specific, be general, brainstorm, have fun with it. I was recently asked this question by someone who is potentially in a position to make this happen, and he wanted to know what we need, what we dream of, that we can't accomplish on our own, or that we would expect to take a long time to accomplish on our own. --Jimbo _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l ___________________________________________________________________________ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Demandez à ceux qui savent sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com

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Dream a little...
by blah blah 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

Cooperation from the schools would have to be there. I envision a time where contributing to free textbooks is a part of college that everyone goes through. It should be no different then typical classwork that students get now. What makes typical classwork/homework anymore forced then contributing to a wiki? Legal hassles would have to be sorted out but I am certain that it could work. The mistakes that happened in Germany should be learned from, not forgotten in contempt. They had a great idea going that has unrealised potential _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://sp…

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Dream a little...
by blah blah 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

I think that there is enormous untapped potential in colleges and universities. With the proper amount of funding, it would be possible to convince schools to force their students to contribute their collective knowledge to wikibooks/wikipedia as part of their classwork or homework. It would have to start out small, a few schools experimenting with the idea here and there. Students would have to login from a .edu address for accountability purposes in order to avoid plagarism/idiots. They would have to be distinct from the rest of the wiki community. Professors should also get involved somehow but I have not thought out their role yet. It would also kill many birds with one stone. Students can contribute about subjects that are fresh in their mind as well as learn more about them as they write. They will also be able to write their own FREE textbooks that future students can use instead of paying ridiculous sums of money for the latest books. Just imagine the potential if we could get every school in the country (or the world) involved... Text books would constantly evolve over time. Schools can print out copies for students who prefer something physical at significantly reduced prices while they make a profit. It's a win-win situation for all (except publishers, poo on them) Schools should create their own educational content instead of forcing students to fill publishers coffers. I believe that this would be the quickest and cheapest method for freeing educational textbooks. _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and morethen map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001

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