Wikipedia-l December 2005

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Re: [WikiEN-l] GFDL compatibility of image licenses
by Anthony DiPierro 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

On 11/28/05, Steve Block <steve.block(a)myrealbox.com> wrote: > In it Jimbo seems to argue that the addition of fair use images does not > mean that the images become GFDL, but rather that the usage of the > specific images in such a way become compliant with the GFDL. At least > that is my reading of the comments. By the way, this sentence contains at least one common misconception about copyleft. Images only "become GFDL" if they are released by their copyright holder under the GFDL. They don't automatically become released under the GFDL. Anthony

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Fair use in non-English Wikipedias (moved from wikien)
by Anthony DiPierro 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

On 11/25/05, Justin Cormack <justin(a)specialbusservice.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 15:19 +0100, Uwe Brauer wrote: > > Hello > > > > > > I just found the following image > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RFJesus.jpg > > > > which seems to be under a different sort of license, if I am not > > mistaken. > > > > I would like to include that image, in the corresponding German > > wikipedia article, however so far people hesitated since they believe > > that this license as expressed in the above url, would/could violate > > the GDL. I find it odd that different wikipedias have different > > standards concerning the license politics. > > > > What can be done? May the simplest solution would be to contact the > > artist (if he/she can be find) and ask for explicit permission. > > > > Any comments, suggestions? > > This is typical of en-w's "flexible" approach to licensing. > > Someone is pretending that because it was printed in some > newspapers under terms that we know nothing about somehow this > gives us permission to use it under some unknown terms even though > we dont accept pictures where we are explicitly given permission > any more. > > Currently its not worth trying to get rid of these pictures from en > as there are still thousands of more dubious ones (no source for > example). It might get picked up at some point in the fair use > examination. > > You cant use it in de: only real free images, sensible policy. > > Justinc Is this really how it works in the German Wikipedia (and other non-English Wikipedias)? I assume you must allow some form of fair dealing, as it's difficult to think of a photo of the real world that doesn't contain *some* copyrighted materials incidently. Does the German Wikipedia have many pictures of celebrities and big events? Do you find that not allowing non-free images detracts significantly from the encyclopedia (ignoring, if you can, the benefits of the images being free)? I think a big part of the hesitation of really embracing being a free encyclopedia is the fear that the encyclopedia would be so much less useful without fair use images. I guess I can get a rough idea of the answers to these questions just browsing the sites on my own, and maybe looking at some statistics if I can find them, but it'd be nice to hear from the perspective of someone who really spends a lot of time on those Wikipedias. Anthony

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