> Hello Jimbo,
>
> Unfortunatly the french NIC doesnt allow this kind
> of thing. Upon domain
> registration you need to provide a document about
> your company / fundation
> whatever and you can't register for a name that
> isn't the name of your
> company.
I wonder if we could register under the organization
of Espéranto-France (www.esperanto-france.org). If we
made Wikipedia a subsidiary project of the
organization or something like that, then we could
probably bypass the problems we're having. Of course,
on the other hand, they might be able to give us
advice on how we could register such a domain name.
Because of our strong Esperanto section, I'm sure
they've heard of Wikipedia and would be willing to
help. I would also imagine that if we have problems
in other countries, we might be able to ask the
national Esperanto organizations in these countries
for their help as well.
Also, perhaps Alliance Francais
(www.alliance-francaise.com) could help. What do you
think?
Best wishes,
Chuck
=====
Esperantomobilo - esperantigante tra Ameriko
http://www.esperantomobilo.org/
__________________________________________________________________
Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de
Logos und Klingeltöne fürs Handy bei http://sms.yahoo.de
[repost as 1st didnt reach newsserver it seem]
Hello,
I was reading the History of Germany articles and found the navigation
table on the right quite useful:
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Germany
I think this will improve wikipedia just as much as the automatic table of
content did.
A way to implement this feature would be to point a parent article to all
it's childs and vice versa. That might be done using [[parent:articlename]]
and / or [[child:articlename]].
Let's look at an example:
History of Germany
-> Franks
-> Holy Roman Empire
-> German Confederation
-> German Empire
-> Weimar Republic
-> Nazi Germany
-> Germany since 1945
Franks article is interesting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks) as it
is part of two series (History of France AND of Germany).
So the History of Germany will have:
[[child:Franks]]
And Franks will have:
[[parent:History of France]]
[[parent:History of Germany]]
Maybe we just need the parent tag ? Setting up a parent tag in an article
will automaticly update the parent article without using any child.
cheers,
--
Antoine
http://fr.wikipedia.org/
L'encyclopédie gratuite et libre.
Electronic Book Web has published an article that may be of interest
called "The Future of Online Reference" (
http://12.108.175.91/ebookweb/stories/storyReader$2407 ). Representitves
from Alacritude (publisher of eLibrary and encyclopedia.com), Questia and
Encyclopaedia Britannica are interviewed. Sadly, our little project does
not yet warrant a mention. ;-)
Stephen Gilbert
wikimedia funds should be public.
eg an account balance with details like the actual balance, and what has been purchased...
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
I just got off the phone with Penguin. The machine build is on hold
as they are waiting for one part -- a 3 bay drive enclosure of all
things. They are now giving an estimated ship date of next Monday,
but they seemed to be trying to be conservative with that -- it really
depends on when the part comes in.
Yeah, I'm not happy about this, either.
Anyhow, I was invited to call back again later in the week for a more
definitive ETA. I will of course do so and report back to you at that
time.
--Jimbo
Anthere wrote:
>Still, proposition : what about waiting till that new
>server is there and working ? All the tech people
>discussing mirrors on the tech list for a good couple
>of months instead of 10 days ? And taking the next 6
>months to set a proper proposition for association ?
I agree - there is no hurry here. I just visited fr.wikipedia and it was very
fast. A new database server is also going to be set-up really soon and Brion
is already figuring out how to do webserver load balancing between different
machines. But when the time comes I'm sure we will be able to add a read-only
websever in France to the load balancing mix for fr.wikipedia. Either way all
edits should go to the database server in San Diego (which could then update
the cache of every webserver in near real-time).
Why would this need a French affiliate Wikimedia Foundation? Could the
Wikimedia Foundation just register in France as a non-profit? There are also
copyright concerns. I would like to see an affiliate EU Wikipedia Foundation
set-up, but I would not like to see us have to set-up affiliates in every
nation. That does not seem to be a practical solution.
Either way I just don't see a need to set-up affiliates right now. Shouldn't
we first put our energies into fully setting up the Wikipedia Foundation
before starting to set-up affiliates?
What's the hurry?
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Hi all,
Following my demand, the Ouvaton cooperative has offered to host a read only
mirror of the French Wikipedia with a budget of 1000 euros for a year in
hardware and bandwidth. For that it is necessary that a non profit
organisation to be set up in France. I drafted a project of status for this
according to French law. It is available at
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Statuts_pour_une_association_en_Fran…
Please, could you opinion on this ? And specially on
* special links between this French law organisation should have with the
Wikimedia foundation;
* technical setup you would recommend.
Regards,
Yann
- --
http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence
http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net
http://fr.wikipedia.org/ | Encyclopédie libre
http://www.forget-me.net/pro/ | Formations et services Linux
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQE/rmg7m4KYjQo0y9oRAtPCAJ4zY/WzyLd7bnnU6ao+Mu2pNC2BAACfZYfV
/4iybSSDpQxlDFTpjo9h9dE=
=DX4I
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Andre Engels <engels(a)uni-koblenz.de>
>> The problem with the current rollback is that it
just
>> revert to the previous edit. We would rather to
revert
>> to the previous edit before the user.
>As far as I know, that is what rollback does -
>reverting to the
>last edit of another user than the current one.
Yes. I just tested. This is true. I had always thought
it reverted just to the last edit. That is good news.
>> However, one disagreement with loggued in people is
>> that they can move pages. While anyone can revert
>> edits made by a vandal, only sysops can fix a move
>> back. That would be the only superior reason to
block
>> a user than I can see.
>No, when a page is moved, the original title will
>become a
>redirect without history, so any registered user can
>move it
>back. Problems only arise when a page has been moved
>more than
>once (in that case one will have to undo all moves in
>reverse
>order rather than doing it at once), or when the
>redirecting
>page has been edited (in that case one does indeed
>need sysop
>powers to first delete the redirecting page).
I am astonished. I just tried this, and yes, you are
right. I just did not know it was possible ! I thought
as soon as a page A had been moved to B, it was
necessary to delete A to move back to B !
That changes a lot of things. I am not sure french
people know this.
Ok thanks Andr�
PS : for my first attempt, I had a software error I
must say. The page A was indicated moved to B, it had
the redirect, it had no more history but the
redirect...but there was no page at B ...hum
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
I was discussing possible measures against this guy on
the IRC channel.
I came to the conclusion that the best feature to
implement would be a
method for quickly rolling back page creation.
Possibly, sysops could
have a column of checkboxes on RC. They would then be
able to tick all
the Papotages-related edits, and roll them back in one
request.
Perhaps this could be submitted to Sourceforge feature
requests.
-- Tim Starling
that would be an idea.
The problem with the current rollback is that it just
revert to the previous edit. We would rather to revert
to the previous edit before the user.
I did not block him as it is easier to track a user
name than various ips.
However, one disagreement with loggued in people is
that they can move pages. While anyone can revert
edits made by a vandal, only sysops can fix a move
back. That would be the only superior reason to block
a user than I can see.
thanks tim
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Tim Starling <ts4294967296 at hotmail.com> writes:
> I was discussing possible measures against this guy on the IRC
> channel. I came to the conclusion that the best feature to implement
> would be a method for quickly rolling back page creation. Possibly,
> sysops could have a column of checkboxes on RC.
I like this idea. IMO, a better implementation idea would be to add rollback
checkboxes to every top edit displayed on their contributions page (maybe
with non-top edits automatically grayed out). At the top there simply would
be a "select all" option. However I still can do 2-3 rollbacks a second when
the server is running fast (gotta love scroll wheels on Linux - press them on
a link and it opens in a new window). So I wouldn't benefit much from such a
feature, but from a few frustrating experiences using rollback on a massive
scale at work (on MS Windows), I know it isn't as easy for many people
(whoever thought it would be a good idea to have 'auto-scroll' enabled when
pressing down on the scroll wheel should be shot!).
What I would love to see is the addition of diffs to user contrib pages. That
would make checking of anon edits go much faster (you can't just assume that
every edit ever made by a vandal's IP is also a vandalism).
Anything that gives us the upper hand against vandals is a good thing; if it
is easier for us to repair damage than it is for vandals to create it, then
that removes much of the incentive for vandals to make a mess of the place
and gives us tools to make cleaning up any mess when it does happen much
easier. It also allows us to keep our doors wide open. All good things.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)