Thomas Dalton writes:
While copyright is largely harmonised, does that include moral rights?
More or less.
The "or less" is the bit you need to worry about, then.
Wow, thanks.
The thing with experts is that you often need to contact them in order to find out if there is anything worth contacting them about.
This had never occurred to me!
Perhaps you should try thinking things through properly in future, then.
(NB: Claiming a statement is sarcastic does not making it false. From your previous email is quite clear that your statements in this email are true despite the fact that you most likely believe you are being sarcastic.)
I am truly impressed, not only with your exceptional knowledge of moral-rights jurisprudence, but also with your assessment of my legal abilities and your insightful interpretation of my comments. It's a wonder that I ever managed to accomplish anything without the insight of Thomas Dalton, especially with regard to this tricky copyright stuff.
It's true, Thomas -- I'm a dope, and I need your wisdom to straighten me out.
--Mike
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mike Godwin mgodwin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thomas Dalton writes:
While copyright is largely harmonised, does that include moral rights?
More or less.
The "or less" is the bit you need to worry about, then.
Wow, thanks.
The thing with experts is that you often need to contact them in order to find out if there is anything worth contacting them about.
This had never occurred to me!
Perhaps you should try thinking things through properly in future, then.
(NB: Claiming a statement is sarcastic does not making it false. From your previous email is quite clear that your statements in this email are true despite the fact that you most likely believe you are being sarcastic.)
I am truly impressed, not only with your exceptional knowledge of moral-rights jurisprudence, but also with your assessment of my legal abilities and your insightful interpretation of my comments. It's a wonder that I ever managed to accomplish anything without the insight of Thomas Dalton, especially with regard to this tricky copyright stuff.
It's true, Thomas -- I'm a dope, and I need your wisdom to straighten me out.
^
Thomas, Mike, as much as I'm amused by this debate, can we drop this here? It's getting unproductive, really.
Thanks, Michael
2008/10/21 Mike Godwin mgodwin@wikimedia.org:
Thomas Dalton writes:
While copyright is largely harmonised, does that include moral rights?
More or less.
The "or less" is the bit you need to worry about, then.
Wow, thanks.
Worse than that. Technically most EU countries should have identical moral rights clauses. Implementation of the clauses is inconsistent and in many cases there is a lack of caselaw (although the lawsuit over changing a bridge design failed).
For the average wikipedian on the ground the issue is less one of what you can handle or find people to handle (I generally assume that the foundation can deal with pretty much any copyright issues should it have to) but how much attention we should be paying to moral rights at all. At the moment we mostly ignore them (along with most non copyright related IP stuff) but we don't know if this is a long term viable approach.
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