Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links
I have started a strike to protest against the collection of personal
information through edit links. I won't edit articles with
articleFeedbackv5_ct_token= ids in their URLs, as has become the case
with the English Wikipedia article Costa Concordia disaster.
Also it is becoming uncomfortable to edit section 0 of an article. On
a normal wiki article, to edit section 0, one copy-pastes the edit
link of section 1 and changes "1" into "0". This is no longer possible
in a reliable enough way, as the effect of changing the URL becomes
If you started editing Wikipedia trusting that the WMF would not
collect personal data beyond the strict minimum that is necessary to
create an encyclopedia, you might be disappointed like I am.
An other problem is that the contents of those URLs are "leaked" at
least to your own Internet Service Provider (like any URL), and
potentially to all websites you are browsing, as they become part of
your browser history, untill you clear your browser history.
And please don't tell me that those URLs are harmless. I don't wan't
to edit a faith-based website. I want to edit a website without
A US law would affect only US providers; however the National Security
Agency is already authorized to monitor all other internet traffic, and
other communications traffic, in the world. They have complex search
algorithms that single out individual messages based on their security
> Correct if I'm wrong (And i'm probably wrong) but that would work for
> single site if approved, so why strike only Wikipedia? I would stop use
internet altogether. :P
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> On 4 February 2012 13:46, Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> > Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links
>> See http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html
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> FWIW, I know our devs are not at all keen to keep personal data even
> sitting around - even checkuser data is cleared after six months, I
> think. What is the current policy?
> - d.
About right. Keeping personal data creates disclosure problems with
children under 13.
FWIW, I know our devs are not at all keen to keep personal data even sitting around - even checkuser data is cleared after six months, I think. What is the current policy?
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The January 2012 report of Wikimedia Hungary is now available at
For your convenience, it is reproduced below.
*Wikimedia Hungary Report*
*Vol 5 Issue 1*
*Prepared by: Bence Damokos*
This is an update on Wikimédia Magyarország's activities covering January
2012. Reports covering the September - December 2011 period have been
prepared but due to a server
will only be released at a later time.
During the month of January we had one general membership meetup and a
board meeting. The membership meetup was aimed at community building and
discussing ongoing projects and ideas. The main reason for the board
meeting was to admit three new members. With the admission of the newest
members, Wikimedia Hungary now has 60 members.
January has been a great leap professionally for Wikimedia Hungary by
hiring Tamás Mészöly as our office manager in charge of most administrative
duties and special projects we assign to him.
He has started working at the end of December, but due to holidays, January
was his first full month. His first main tasks have been setting up the
office (telephone, printer, access to the bank account), working with our
accountant, members and board on closing the books on 2011 and as gesture
towards our partners, ordering and sending out our greetings cards.
On or around 11 January the RAID controller component of a server hosting
our websites and a number of web services (like our membership application
form, among others) has crashed and due to an error of the replacement
controller some data has been corrupted.
We have already migrated essential services (like e-mail) to our own
and are working on restoring and recreating the content that was stored on
the crashed server (and obviously, implementing an off-site backup
solution). In the mean time, wikimedia.hu redirects to our Meta-Wiki
Wikimedia Hungary has received much help from its partners in previous
years and we wanted to contribute back this year by encouraging the
self-organization of Wikimedia communities in the neighbouring countries
and supporting the participation of Wikipedians in the neighbouring regions
in Hungarian and regional Wikimedia events.
It is this theme that the independently conceived idea of a Wikimedia
Foundation Board of Trustees–Chapters
to the region fit into; and as the first step, Ting Chen from the Board of
Trustees, and Miloš Rančić (Wikimedia
and Bence Damokos (Wikimedia Hungary) from the Chapters Committee visited
Zagreb between 20-22 January.
On the trip they made contact with and between the local Wikipedians, who
have already founded the not-yet-recognized Wikimedia Croatia chapter and a
local hackerspace organization called MAMA. The visitors tried to encourage
Croatian Wikipedians to have regular meetups (possibly facilitated by a
travel costs grant from the Wikimedia Foundation) and to restart the
recognition process of Wikimedia
The next destination is
which we will visit on the weekend of 26 February, on the 10th anniversary
the Slovenian Wikipedia.
Ongoing projects and project ideas In January a number of projects have
started life in the discussion phase and some have gotten to later stages
of completeness, however, they will only bear fruit at later times.
- We have started working on replenishing our supply of smaller value
goody items (pens, pencils, yo-yos, etc.), which will probably continue in
February once we find a printer who can confidently print on curving
surfaces (for the pencils and other round items we were considering).
- We have offered six partial
Wikimania 2012, and have approved one travel support request to the Open
Wiki GLAM of
- Based on the suggestions of Wikimedia Estonia to have a dedicated
workshop in the summer, we have begun thinking on what resources we could
mobilize to help the development of Wikipedias in Finno-Ugric languages
(e.g. presentations at conferences, getting students involved, etc.).
- We also had started discussing the idea of a joint Estonian-Hungarian
article writing competition on Wikipedia.
- Finally, a
issued for a PR&Communications intern position.
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I did my own non official statistics about voters and candidates by
Here you are:
en-wiki presented 39% of the candidates, casted 30% of the votes and
obtained 66% of the members.
de-wiki presented 18% of the candidates, casted 14% of the votes and
obtained 33% of the members.
The next languages casting most votes where French (8,5%) Spanish (6%) and
Catalan (4,9%) . None of them obtained any seat although the candidate who
were native speaker of French and Catalan (Claudi Balaguer) was very close
to be elected together with two very well known members of the community
Milos and Lodewijk, with about 30 votes of difference among those 3
In those elections more than 60% of Catalan editors with right to vote
participated while percentage of participation in English was ridiculous.
My conclusion was that for even relatively big languages like Catalan it is
impossible to get representation in community elections unless you start
writing in English Wikipedia.
The Situation of countries without a chapter is a problem but situation of
languages without a country is a disgrace. The problem can be solved by
setting up a chapter but the disgrace has no solution they will never be
able to be represented in the board.
Board cannot be widened to an unbearable number of members but if we
increased the number of community elected board members to 6 by
transforming chapter selected members and by picking one from board
selected (or perhaps having a board of 11 members as even numbers are
always more advisable for decision bodies than odd) then:
1) Communities could have the feeling that Foundation is an organization at
their service because the majority of the governing body is elected by them.
2) Chapters doesn’t lose their capability to participate and influence in
elections if they where able to mobilize their affiliates.
3) Candidates of languages able to mobilize around 5% of the votes could
have some chances to be elected opening doors to more diversity.
Anyway it seems to me that we should find mechanisms to allow participation
in governance to editors of those projects that neither have a chapter nor
is likely that can have influence in community elections.
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:46:12 +0100
> From: Bence Damokos <bdamokos(a)gmail.com>
> I think the community elections are sometimes perceived as en.wikipedia
> centric, even if the actual voter turnout could suggest otherwise. (I
> haven't been able to find voter statistics per project, so the perception
> might actually be correct even if the people who win are at least partially
Yo are right but those figures tell us that chapters are in a very strong
position if they where able to mobilize their 4000 affiliates in the
community board elections. I wonder how many of the 3400 participants in
the community elections were also affiliated to some chapter.
> *John Vandenberg* jayvdb at gmail.com <foundation-l%40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BFoundation-l%5D%20Call%20for%20nominations%3A%20chapter-appointed%20seats%20on%0A%20the%20WMF%20Board%20of%20Trustees&In-Reply-To=%3CCAO9U_Z56154XQMhH4PO1SEmq6Yv1y6P_c3L0rVU%2BcXsc3X5rUA%40mail.gmail.com%3E>
> *Wed Feb 1 22:38:29 UTC 2012*
> In the 2011 community board election, less than 3400 "users" voted.
> In the 2012 chapter board election, 39 chapters consisting of more
> than 4000 identified people will be voting.
> Unfortunately neither process captures a large percentage of the
> active Wikimedian community.