Dear all,
Greetings from Wikimedia India !!!
The Wikimedia Chapter (India) celebrated its first anniversary on 3rd
January 2012.
Organisational Updates Formation of Task Forces:
The formation of the different task forces are still in progress. The
various task forces are a) Fundraising, b) Special Projects, c)
Administration, d) City and Language Special Interest Groups, and e)
Communications, PR & Media Relations.
We are seeking more volunteers for the task forces. If you are interested,
please feel free to contact the respective task force stewards or find more
information here [1]
Membership:
The Chapter membership stands at 196 members as of 31 January 2012. Six new
members were added to the chapter membership in this month. We extend a
very warm welcome to the family.
Donations:
Total donations received in Jan 2012 - INR 10700
Average donations in Jan 2012 - INR 3566
FCRA:
Our application for prior permission under the Foreign Contribution
(Regulation) Act FCRA 2010, with the Government of India is under process.
As the stated time for response is over recently, chapter will be following
up with the authorities. [ As we write this report, our application was
approved by the Government of India]
Internet Relay Chat(IRCs):
>From time to time, Wikimedia India conduct planned online IRC chat
sessions. The IRC on Jan 05, 2011 was anchored by Sudhanwa Jogalekar with
the focus on Chapter Specia Interest Groups (SIG) co-ordination [2]. The
IRC on Jan 07, 2010, anchored by Arun Ramarathnam discussed on the Jan 15th
Celebration plans, SIGs and GLAM projects. [3]
Board Meetings:
The Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee had two tele-conference EC
meetings (dated 04 Jan and 18 Jan, 2012) in the month of January.The
Wikimedia India chapter and Wikimedia Foundation had one joint
co-ordination call on 25 Jan 2012, which was attended by Arjuna Rao
Chavala, Naveen Francis, Tinu Cherian and Hisham Mundol. The main agenda
of the call was on Chapter - Foundation India programs Collaboration
Framework .
WikiConference 2011
The Chapter and Mumbai Conference organisers are working closely for the
closure and audit of accounts related to WikiConference Mumbai 2011.
Community & Special Interest Groups. SOPA and Wikipedia Blackout: The
global community of volunteers who edit the English Wikipedia had decided
to support the protest against the introduction of the “Stop Online Piracy
Act” (SOPA) in the US House of Representatives and the “Protect IP Act” in
the US Senate. To that end, the English Wikipedia was blacked out globally
for a period of 24 hours on 18 January 2012. The black out in India
commenced at 10.30am IST on 18 January 2012. The Press release and
Communication to the members related to Wikipedia Blackout can found here
[4],[5].
Wikipedia eleventh anniversary :
Wikipedia turned eleven on the 15th of January 2012. The eleventh
anniversary of Wikipedia was celebrated in different parts of the country
[6]. More than 8 Indian cities and towns and over 200 Wikimedians & Wiki
enthusiasts celebrated this occasion of Wikipedia anniversary, around the
nation.
Some of the meetups had a Wikipedia anniversary cake to celebrate the
occasion. Google Hangout was also conducted between different cities
celebrating at the same time.
The New Wikimedia India portal ( wikimedia.in ) was launched on this day.
It is designed to provide quick and rapid access to Indic wikimedia
projects - Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikibooks, Wikinews,
Wikiquote and Commons.
A full collection of images related to the celebrations, around the nation,
can be found here [7].
Events:
A round-up of Wikimedia events, academies and initiatives around the nation
is as follows.
Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad (3 Jan 2012): Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad [8] is a
scavenger hunt for free content photography in Ahmedabad, Gujarat,
organised by Noopur Raval , Anirudh Bhati and Srikeit Tadepalli. The aim
of this exercise is to encourage participants to compete to take
photographs of as many local sights and city specific objects of cultural
heritage as possible for Wikipedia articles. Over 75 participants attended
and around 815 images were uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons as a part of
this initiative [9].
Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II ( 28 Jan 2012) : This is the second photography
drive in Mumbai. [10] The event was led by Nikita Belavate, Anshuman
Fotedar and Karthik Nadar and other members of the Mumbai Community. Over
625 images were uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons as a part of this
initiative [11]
Wiki Academies/Workshops : Several Wiki Academies were held in different
parts of the nation , organised and conducted by the Chapter, its members
,WMF India Programs and the Wikimedia community in India. .
a) Cochin University of Science and Technology, Kochi , Kerala (05-Jan) [12]
b) Workshop at Text100, Mumbai (webcast to Text100 Delhi and Bangalore)
(06-Jan) [13]
c) SSN College of Engineering, Chennai (11-Jan ) [14]
d) P S R Rengasamy college of engineering for women, Sivakasi, Tamil Nadu.
(20-Jan) [15]
e) Netaji Subhash Engineering College, Kolkata, West Bengal (25-Jan) [16]
f) Jadavpur University, Kolkata, West Bengal (25-Jan) [17]
g) Amrita School of Communication, Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu (28-Jan) (18)
h) Jamia Millia Islamia, Faculty of Engineering and Technology, Delhi
(30-Jan) [19]
i) Kerala Sahitya Academy, Trissur, Kerala (8-Jan) [20]
j) Jnana Prabodhini - Wikiacademy, Pune (15-Jan) [21]
A session on Commons was conducted for photography group called
‘Tassavurrati’. [22] They have successfully started uploading pictures of
their trips (most recent: Surajkund Mela) to the Wkimedia Commons.
Other News:
- Telugu SIG celebrated the Wikipedia day on 29 Jan 2012 at Hyderabad.
Top 10 contributors in the articles category and non article category were
recognised at the function. [23]
- Sanskrit Wikipedia saw an excellent editor growth (50%) compared to
last month, and a 234% increase in the number of edits.
- The 1st Delhi Odia Wikimeetup and Academy was conducted on 29 Jan 2012
by Odia SIG Chair and WMF India Programs Consultant , Subhashish
Panigraphi. [24]
- One of the first Assamese Wikipedia community meetup and Wikipedia
Workshop was held on Jan 29 at Guwahati University, Guwahati, Assam [25]
Milestones & Anniversaries January 2012
24
- The Sanskrit Wiktionary <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sa:> has
reached 200 entries with the addition of over a dozen entries all
apparently meaning "sun".
20
- The Divehi
Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Dv:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 100,000 page edits.
- The Assamese
Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=As:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 500 uploaded files.
17
- The Bengali
Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Bn:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 1,000 uploaded files.
- The Oriya Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Or:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 2,000 articles.
15
- The Bengali
Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Bn:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 1,000 uploaded files.
- The Urdu Wiktionary <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ur:> has reached
10,000 entries.
13
- Wikimedia Commons <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/> has reached
12,000,000 files.
- The Tamil Wikibooks<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=B:ta:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 10,000 page edits.
10
- The English
Wikibooks<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=B:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 40,000 book modules.
7
- The Marathi
Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Mr:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 100,000 total pages.
- The Assamese
Wikipedia<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=As:&action=edit&redlink=1>has
reached 1,000 articles.
Media Coverage
There was a huge coverage for Wikipedia on Indian media in this month,
mainly related to Wikipedia Blackout. A comprehensive list of the coverage
can be found here [24]
We look forward to your continued support and active participation.
Report compiled by Executive members,SIG chairs and The Communications team.
Best,
On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter (India)
Naveen Francis
Secretary
Notes:
1) http://members.wikimedia.in/Main_Page#Task_forces
2) http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Jan_05,2012
3) http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Jan_07,2012
4)
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Press_Releases/2012/_English_Wikipedia_to_go_dark_…
5)
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Announcements/Communication_regarding_SOPA_and_Wik…
6) http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Eleven
7) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_11_in_India
8) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Ahmedabad
9) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1
10) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Mumbai_II
11) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Takes_Mumbai_2
12)
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Cochin_University_of_Science_and_Tech…
13) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop/Mumbai_Workshop_2
14)
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/SSN_College_of_Engineering,_Chennai
15)
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/P_S_R_Rengasamy_college_of_engineering_for_women,_…
16) http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Netaji_Subhash_Engineering_College
17) http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Jadavpur_University
18)
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Amrita_School_of_Communication,_Coimb…
19) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MDHJMI1
20) http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WATSR2
21)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune/W11_celebration_Pune_wit…
22) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tassavurrati_1.jpg
23)
http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%…
24) http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MDEL1
25)
http://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A7%B1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%…
24) http://wiki.wikimedia.in/In_the_news#Jan_2012
I'd recommend George Orwell's essay on "Politics and the English
Language". It's one of the most persuasive arguments to use clear
language I've read.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm
We're a multi-lingual movement, and this makes clear English even more
important. If something is unclear to a native speaker, it's even more
difficult for someone who has English as a second or third language.
Chris
Mike Godwin wrote:
> I read the article in the Chronicle pretty carefully. The author's
> experience struck me as an example of a pattern that may account for
> the flattening of the growth curve in new editors as well as for some
> other phenomena. As you may remember, Andrew Lih conducted a
> presentation on "the policy thicket" at Wikimania almost five years
> ago. The wielding of policy by long-term editors, plus the rewriting
> of the policy so that it is used to undercut NPOV rather than preserve
> it, strikes me as worth talking about.
Mike, thanks for the re-mention, and that same thing definitely stuck
out to me.
We have hit upon perhaps the perfect Achilles Hell of Wikipedia with
this case -- conscientious, non-combative user tries to reason with
the veteran editor crowd and gets rebuffed. After two years comes back
with well-crafted scholarship to support his case but gets tossed the
book of overly-broad policy that has accumulated in the interest of
combating specific cases of minority and fringe content.
What winds up happening is that it filters out legitimate
contributions and potential excellent contributors.
I've buried the lede, but tomorrow (Wednesday) I'll be on NPR's Talk
of the Nation radio show with Timothy Messer-Kruse himself, to talk
about his experiences.
Tune in, and feel free to send questions/comments my way (that are helpful!)
-Andrew
2012/2/21 Michael Everson <everson(a)evertype.com>
> On 20 Feb 2012, at 18:23, Osmar Valdebenito wrote:
>
> > But there are several problems, especially with Mapudungun Wikipedia.
> Currently, ISO code for Mapudungun is arn from Araucanian, an offensive
> word used by the Spanish and Chilean conquerors till the past century.
>
> What is offensive about it? To an English-speaker it simply looks like
> some sort of place-name.
>
>
I'm not a Mapuche person so I'm not the one to say why are they offended.
One of the etymologies for Araucanian is "savage", "barbarian" and "enemy",
used first by the Incas and then by Spanish and Chilean conquerors.
It is not longer used anymore and today is totally outdated. Not in
English, not in Spanish.
For me, it is not a big deal... but, as I said, I am not a Mapuche
person... but I know it is important for them and we must deal with their
sensitivities.
Using "araucano" or any derivation would be like using the N-word, trust me.
But these sentivities are important for all our movement, especially if we
are dealing with different cultures and different backgrounds. We have seen
those cases before with, for example, the portraits of Muhammed or other
issues when our culture clashes with other.
> > That name is also used by Unicode for their translation (and so, it is
> used in our {{#language}} magic word).
>
> Unicode does not make "translations", so I do not know what you mean. I
> also not know what "it is used in our {{#language}} magic word)" means.
>
Sorry, I meant localization.
{{#language}} is a magic word for MediaWiki that shows the localized name
of a language.
{{#language:es}} would be <Spanish> at English Wikipedia, <Español> in
Spanish Wikipedia and <Wingkazugun> in Mapudungun Wikipedia, just to name
few.
Currently {{#language:arn}} says <Araucanian> and <Araucano> for English
and Spanish and, as I said before, it is not only pejorative and offensive
but also outdated and wrong. In fact, as you said earlier, the name used by
the ISO code for arn in English is Mapudungun and not Araucanian. To be
honest, this is a minor issue and I just wanted to correct something it is
wrong. The real problem is with the ISO code.
> > The use of the code for the community is a serious issue... nobody would
> like to work in a project with an offensive word attached to it.
>
> Standardization bodies have to deal with stability. If you retire a code
> it can't be used by any one else. And if "arn" were retired and something
> else were established for Mapudungun, that would result in one less
> three-letter code available for *other* languages which do not yet have
> codes. Those minorities also deserve a chance, do they not?
>
Although it is true that standarizations have to deal with stability, it
also tries to reflect the truth. There have been several changes for
different ISO standards; not sure about ISO 639 about languages (it is
difficult that a language can change) but for example, there have been a
lot of changes on ISO 3166 about contries: HV changed to BF when Alto Volta
was renamed Burkina Faso, for example.
Considering 26 letters on the alphabet and three letters per code, there
are 17.576 different combinations. Currently, less than 500 are being used.
I'm pretty sure a change on the code won't affect other minorities.
> > We have been trying to contact the ISO authority and also the US Library
> of the Congress (which is in charge of ISO 639-1) but we didn't get an
> answer.
>
> LOC is in charge of 639-2, which is relevant. And if you look at
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php you will see that
> by the code "arn" the name "Araucanian" does *not* appear.
>
No, Araucanian is not longer used, but the code is. And that is the code
every Mapudungun speaker will use on their own Wikipedia. And "arn" doesn't
seem like random letters to asign that language. Of course, they will (and
are) upset.
> > I know that the Language Committee has an strict rule about the use of
> ISO code but I think this is an exceptional case where the use of that code
> is a really sensitive issue that could damage any development.
>
> Why is this "really sensitive"? And what specific remedy do you want?
>
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
>
>
I think I said before why it is sensitive and shouldn't be used.
My proposal would be to look for an alternative language code for use on
Wikimedia projects instead of arn.
There are available codes at ISO (for example, mpg or mpn) although they
can be used on the future.
Other codes (for example, map) is used for a group of languages, not for a
single language, so it probably won't be used on Wikipedia.
And other option could be using a diferent code, for example mapu, that
won't clash with any other project.
Hi all! Just a quick reminder that you're invited to join the WMF
localization team at 1800 UTC tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Subject: IRC office hours with the localization team, on International
Mother Language Day
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to give some advance notice about IRC office hours with the
localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation, which will be aptly held
on International Mother Language Day.[2]
Date: 2011-02-21
Time: 18.00 UTC
Venue: #wikimedia-office
As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available on
Meta.[3] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to, I highly
recommend the blog posts they've been writing regularly.[4]
Thanks, and we'll talk to you later this month!
--
Steven Walling,
Wikimedia Foundation
1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day
3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
4.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-lo…
--
Steven Walling
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
Hi everyone!
Yesterday, news agency EFE published a note about the work done mainly by
Wikimedia Argentina about the development of projects in Native American
languages like aymara, guarani and mapudungun. The news have been replied
in the largest newspapers and websites of Latin America and Spain.
The work to develop Wikimedia projects in Native American languages have
been taken as a priority for the chapters members of Iberocoop (Wikimedia
Argentina, Chile, Mexico and Venezuela) and we expect this year 2012 to
work in the development of those communities of users and editors. But we
expect also the support of the Language Committee and the Wikimedia
Foundation for this work.
http://www.que.es/201202171651-lenguas-indigenas-abren-paso-wikipedia-efe.h…
Here is a fast translation to English of the article (sorry for my English
btw):
Indigenous languages like Guaraní and Mapuche are making their way into
Wikipedia with the help offered by the editors of the colorful encyclopedia
to teachers and students of the University of Buenos Aires (UBA), the
largest in Argentina.
These presentations for teachers and students of Guaraní and Mapuche in the
Language Center of the UBA wants to "promote the development of content in
versions that are underrepresented on the Internet," said Patricio Lorente,
president of Wikimedia Argentina, local official of the encyclopedia.
The training courses were held at the headquarters of the university in
late 2011 and are planned to be repeated this year to expand the initiative.
The editors of this South American country contacted with users of
neighboring Bolivia promote the incorporation of content in Aymara, one of
the main indigenous languages of that country, but is also spoken in
parts of Argentina, Peru and Chile.
According to Unesco, language preservation is a challenge considering the
danger of extinction that half of the 6,000 languages in the world are
facing.
"We are concerned about the preservation of culture. That is why we teach
to those who speak these languages about Wikipedia editing rules," said
the head of the subsidiary in Argentina, with an indigenous population of
about 600,000 people, according to official estimates.
Currently, the encyclopedia has about 1,500 items in Guaraní and another
1,700 in Aymara, while the Mapuche or Mapudungun, as is known, is still in
"experimental phase", he said.
However, in other Indian languages such as Quechua, used in Argentina and
six other South American countries, the experience is more extensive, with
some 16,000 articles entered.
"With the Mapudungun there are some additional problems because until
recently it had no writing. And, according to the communities, they have
different ways of writing by region. So we are seeing the possibility of
applying a technical solution so everyone can view the articles in their
own dialect," said Lorente.
The main Mapuche community is in Chile, where some 600,000 members
concentrated mainly in the region of La Araucania, and also extends to the
Argentine Patagonia, with a hundred thousand members.
For its part, the Guarani is one of the two official languages of
Paraguay, alongside Spanish, but also has strong presence in northern
Argentina, especially in the province of Corrientes, which is valid for the
authorities.
In general, articles entered in "Vikipeta", the Guarani version of the
encyclopedia, are small in size and are mostly associated with
geo-referenced with data on Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil, among others.
The editors of the site believe that the poverty facing these peoples
should not be an obstacle to greater difussion of their languages,
especially when those are the only languages some of them know.
"They have a very strong linguistic identity and vocation for the
preservation of the language. And Wikipedia is an encyclopedia in permanent
construction that seeks to incorporate more and more content like this," he
said Lorente.
For that, the local site editors also prepared a manual for editing in
Wikipedia to be delivered to recipients of the training.
Osmar Valdebenito Gaete
Presidente de Wikimedia Chile
http://www.wikimediachile.cl
Jussi-ville writes:
>> The policy, misused in the course of POV struggle, is a way of excluding
>> information with interferes with presentation of a desired point of view.
>
> I think you are being way too generous. ... Let me repeat in more concise form.
> The policy was written to enable serious work on hard topics, it as it
> stands, hinders work, making it hard to edit simple facts.
I think the article in The Chronicle of Higher Education is a
must-read. Here you have a researcher who actually took pains to learn
what the rules to editing Wikipedia are (including No Original
Research), and who, instead of trying to end-run WP:NOR, waited years
until the article was actually published before trying to modify the
Haymarket article. To me, this is a particularly fascinating case
because the author's article, unlike the great majority of sources for
Wikipedia articles, was peer-reviewed -- this means it underwent
academic scrutiny that the newspapers, magazines, and other popular
sources we rely on never undergo.
I think the problem really is grounded in the UNDUE WEIGHT policy
itself, as written, and not in mere misuse of the policy.
--Mike
Fred Bauder writes:
> We're talking past one another. It is obvious to me that the author of
> the Chronicle article should have been able to add his research without
> difficulty, at least after it was published.
You're right, Fred. We actually were talking past each other, and
primary blame for that belongs to me: I read your posting standing
alone without fully grasping the context. My apologies for my
misreading it, Fred.
--Mike
On 2/19/2012 8:19 AM, foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:12:09 -0300
> From: Sarah<slimvirgin(a)gmail.com>
> To:mnemonic@gmail.com, Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia
> (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions
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> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Mike Godwin<mnemonic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Jussi-ville writes:
>> >
>>>> >>> The policy, misused in the course of POV struggle, is a way of excluding
>>>> >>> information with interferes with presentation of a desired point of view. ...
>>> >>
>> >
>> > I think the article in The Chronicle of Higher Education is a
>> > must-read. Here you have a researcher who actually took pains to learn
>> > what the rules to editing Wikipedia are (including No Original
>> > Research), and who, instead of trying to end-run WP:NOR, waited years
>> > until the article was actually published before trying to modify the
>> > Haymarket article. To me, this is a particularly fascinating case
>> > because the author's article, unlike the great majority of sources for
>> > Wikipedia articles, was peer-reviewed -- this means it underwent
>> > academic scrutiny that the newspapers, magazines, and other popular
>> > sources we rely on never undergo.
>> >
>> > I think the problem really is grounded in the UNDUE WEIGHT policy
>> > itself, as written, and not in mere misuse of the policy.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Mike
> I agree. It's the way UNDUE is written that is problematic, and it has
> led, for years, to significant-minority viewpoints being excluded --
> on the grounds that the views are not sufficiently well-represented by
> reliable sources; or that the reliable sources, even if peer-reviewed,
> belong to the wrong field.
>
> Sarah
>
The origin of these policies in theoretical physics is mind boggling -
how can you stretch something that applies to unproven theoretical
entries to also apply to real world facts?
To claim that a subject is inconsequential, advertising or not important
as a basis for killing a new entry is a BIG reason why_new contributors
are so discouraged_ that they go away rather than deal with the
obstacles to making a new entry stay active and be available for others
to add to in the future. The learning curve is steep enough without
someone telling you your efforts aren't wanted.
I've fought several of these battles with pig headed editors who claim
that a new factual or biographical entry isn't important enough to be
accepted. Sometimes it is easy to refute them, but they often ignore
evidence based in brick & mortar publications of a reputable nature.
For example - lookup "virtual valley" on Wikipedia. The closest result
currently up is "Metro Silicon Valley", which is related. However the
editor who killed the virtual valley entry did not bother to find this
entry (and perhaps suggest they be merged). Instead that person claimed
it was blatant advertising and could not be bothered to look at
historical evidence online and elsewhere to the contrary. I lost that
time - and it put such a bad tase in my mouth that I haven't troubled
myself to spend any more time trying to publish anything on Wikipedia.
Who won?
