Wikimedia-l September 2011

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[Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia
by とある白い猫 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

Hi all, It is proposed that Kurdish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language) wikipedia (ku.wikipedia) be renamed to Kurmanji wikipedia (kmr.wikipedia) as currently ku.wikipedia predominantly hosts a single dialect which is Kurmanji dialect of Kurdish. Local community oppose the proposal so far. I'd like to explain some background behind the proposal. Kurdish wikipedia had been hosting multiple dialects since its creation. The three main dialects (in terms of article count) have been Zazaki (1.5–2.5 million speakers), Sorani (5 million speakers) and Kurmanji (9 million speakers). Zazaki is only mentioned here because it was hosted by Kurdish wikipedia at some point. Zazaki's language family is controversial as some sources put it as a dialect of Kurdish while others disagree with this. While details surrounding the linguistic properties are irrelevant for this proposal, the controversy itself is relevant. Kurdish as a language has no standard from and the ISO considers ku (kur) to be a language code for a macro-language for multiple dialects. Furthermore said dialects are mutually unintelligible (per first Google hit: http://www.thefellowship.info/Missions/Global-Missions/People-Groups/Kurds) with multiple different types of scripts such as Sorani using rtl Arabic script and Kurmanji using ltr latin script and are different in both grammar and vocabulary. In addition Sorani is the only dialect used officially in north of Iraq by the Kurdistan Regional Government and is not the most common dialect of Kurdish (according to Wikipedia anyways). - Zazaki dialect separated from Kurdish Wikipedia on 5 January 2007 with http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Zazaki and had been steadily having an increase in article count and will seemingly overtake ku.wikipedia soon enough. - Sorani dialect has seperated from Kurdish wikipedia on 14 November 2010 with http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kurdish… and has steady contribution despite being a very recently created wiki. - Minor dialects (in terms of article count) hosted by Kurdish wikipedia already have their relevant incubator pages with Southern Kurdish created on 29 October 2009 (http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/sdh) and Kirmanjki created on 30 July 2008 ( http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kiu). Currently ku.wikipedia has very few tagged articles in non-Kurmanji dialects: - http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taybet:WhatLinksHere/%C5%9Eablon:Soran%C3%AE6 Sorani uses - There is a Sorani wikipedia - http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taybet:WhatLinksHere/%C5%9Eablon:Bi_kurdiya_ba… Southern Kurdish uses - There is an incubator entry for Southern Kurdish - http://ku.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taybet:WhatLinksHere/%C5%9Eablon:… Zazaki uses - There is a Zazaki wikipedia By keeping ku.wikipedia with its ku language code we are: - Implying Kurmanji as the "official" dialect of Kurdish with the Kurdish macro-language code - Implying Sorani as the lesser dialect when in fact it is the only official one. - Implying Zazaki to be a Kurdish dialect which Zazaki community opposes fiercely as evident in closed language proposal of Zazaki of 2007. - Confusing the reader whom visits ku.wikipedia only to find Kurdish articles they cannot read unless they use Kurmanji dialect (only half of Kurdish speakers know Kurmanji if you add up the numbers for all other dialects). - I'd like to highlight one remark from Sorani wiki proposal page: "Even though both "Kurmanj" and "Sorani" are subgroups (accent) of Kurdish language, they can cause of misunderstanding and misinterpretation for people who speak the language with these accents to each other. This can happen in different situations. For instance during regular conversations, or reading/understanding complex and professional contents.In general, "Kurmanj" and "Sorani" are not useful to each other since misinterpretation is so high while they are used in different places. --Marmzok 11 April 2009" - This is the problem the reader deals on an article by article basis unless they know the existence of Sorani wikipedia. Relevant meta discussion is here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Ku… Might I remind that "The committee does not consider political differences, since the Wikimedia Foundation's goal is to give every single person free, unbiased access to the sum of all human knowledge, rather than information from the viewpoint of individual political communities." ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy#Requisites). Therefore political arguments including the ones in the meta discussion are irrelevant. - とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)

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Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked
by Michael Peel 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

> From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk(a)eunet.rs> > On 22/09/11 10:12, Andrea Zanni wrote: >> when Sue presented us the Strategic Plan and Wikipedia was all over the >> pages, >> but none of the sister projects. > > I have to say, whenever I make a presentation of Wikimedia and mention > sister projects, all I get is blank stares. It really makes sense to > focus on Wikipedia in outreach activities. Um… no. That means it really makes sense to talk about the sister projects more than just mentioning them, as they are clearly in more need of outreach than Wikipedia with that audience… I often briefly describe the sister projects when I'm doing Wikipedia outreach - and quite often see people making comments on twitter etc. as a result about how they didn't know about a particular project, and were going to take a look at it (and hopefully go on to contribute to it…) Mike

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[Foundation-l] Internet Archive: Volunteer - Help us get 200, 000 books on Sunday!
by emijrp 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

Hi all; Who lives in San Francisco? Who works there (WMF staff ; )) ? This may be a good choice to get involved with Internet Archive. http://blog.archive.org/2011/09/20/volunteer-help-us-get-200000-books-on-su… Regards, emijrp

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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 90, Issue 121
by Craig Franklin 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

I'd caution against putting too much faith in those raw numbers without a clear understanding of what they mean. They can make sense comparing different language editions of the same project, but comparing different projects is apples and oranges. For instance, some months ago I was doing some research and I found that for Wikisource it doesn't count the "Page" and "Index" namespaces as "articles", even though that's where the bulk of the content generation is taking place these days. This might have since been fixed, and I'm sure that you (Phillipe) are aware of it, I just wanted to jump in before someone started complaining that Wikinews is only a certain unimpressive %age of where Wikipedia was at the same point. Cheers, Craig Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:49:01 -0700 > From: Philippe Beaudette <philippe(a)wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? > Really? > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CAPb+kY-o0e0fqgnf0LbwLsbogFO6y5w+2wQ-gqy1a4t013_mzA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP > > Usage statistics alone, I would agree with you. > > But stats can tell so much more than just what you get from usage stats. > For instance: > http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm (be > sure to scroll all the way to the right). > ___________________ > Philippe Beaudette > Head of Reader Relations > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > 415-839-6885, x 6643 > > philippe(a)wikimedia.org > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> > wrote: > > > On 09/20/11 10:11 PM, ?????? wrote: > > > Certain projects are bound to loose active contributors. Projects like > > > Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikispecies or even Wiktionary do not have the > > same > > > growth curve as a general purpose encyclopedia. These tools have > serious > > > competition as well. Statistically looking at numbers is unwise unless > > you > > > are going to look at it with a perspective. This is not to say these > > > projects are without problem, but that doesn't mean the wikis are > > failures. > > > > > > > > This is all very true. The important thing is to keep focused on your > > own project. If you look at competing projects, rather than looking at > > their usage statistics, a better question is "What are they failing to > > do that you could do better?" > > > > Ray > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > >

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Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Scope of this mailing list
by Phil Nash 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

Carcharoth wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Phil Nash <phnash(a)blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Starting at the back, and working forward, my posts are not random. >> They are carefully selected examples based on my experience as >> (currently) a reader of Wikipedia and my responses to what I found. >> I take it as obvious that if I can read these articles, so can their >> subjects, and if they don't like what they see, making appropriate >> noises, or (in extreme cases) litigating against the Foundation. > > What you seem to be arguing for is a mailing list dedicated to the > issues you raise. The point I was making is that re-purposing this > mailing list (wiki-en-l) for that purpose is unlikely to succeed (or > be desirable), and that is what I meant by references to this being a > bit random. In other words, the venue(s) you are chosing for raising > these matters seem a bit random. What you seem to be looking for is a > mailing list version of the BLP Noticeboard. I've copied the WMF > mailing list on this post (as you added that mailing list when you > replied), but I won't see any replies to that mailing list as I'm not > subscribed there. I've removed Jimmy from the cc list, as the posts to > public mailing lists should be sufficient. > > Carcharoth OK, Chris. Let's see what happens next.

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[Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with Sue Gardner, Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 17:00 UTC
by Steven Walling 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

Just a quick reminder that this is tomorrow at 17:00 UTC. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:42 AM Subject: IRC office hours with Sue Gardner, Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 17:00 UTC To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Greetings all, I just wanted to announce that there will be an office hours with Sue Gardner in #wikimedia-office Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 17:00 UTC. Likely topics include current events like the image filter referendum and Sue's new Executive Director's Barnstar, among many other possibilities. As usual, links to time conversion and other materials are on Meta.[1] Best regards, -- Steven Walling Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours -- Steven Walling Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org

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Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Scope of this mailing list
by Phil Nash 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

Carcharoth wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Phil Nash <phnash(a)blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote: > > <snip> > >> [[User:Rodhullandemu]] - "still flying the flag for Wikipedia, for >> some inexplicable reason". > > Does this refer to this? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rodhullandemu&diff=431917947… > > I'm not going to comment further, but I think others who respond to > your posts should be aware of this. Actually, you did comment further, and on a personal level; see below. And the lack of response in nearly nine hours to your post amply demonstrates, to me at least, how you seems to have missed the point. > What the scope of this mailing list should be (given your recent posts > on BLP matters, all copied to Jimmy Wales), is something I'd like to > see discussed by the list moderators and those posting here. If there > is a reason or rationale behind the posts, attempting to demonstrate > something, then fine, but it would be courteous to state that rather > then just post randomly like this. Starting at the back, and working forward, my posts are not random. They are carefully selected examples based on my experience as (currently) a reader of Wikipedia and my responses to what I found. I take it as obvious that if I can read these articles, so can their subjects, and if they don't like what they see, making appropriate noises, or (in extreme cases) litigating against the Foundation. We have BLP policies for that reason, and while I see editors on Wikipedia competing to provide articles about bacon(!), fiddling about with templates that are ostensibly fit for purpose as they are[1], and still arguing about trivial issues, nobody seems to be committed to clearing backlogs of articles that actually provide legal, if not journalistic, risk for WP and its parent. And there are myriad similar examples. My personal reasons are less important than making sure that this project does, and can, continue without unnecessary diversions into legalities- perhaps I've been spending too much time reading up Commons policies of late, one of which (to paraphrase) says that "just because nobody will notice a copyright violation is no reason to ignore policy"- and so it should be with any policy on any WMF project that may have consequences for the Foundation. I am available to discuss any non-apparent personal motivations PRIVATELY by email rather than on a public list. But don't assume that I don't have our project's viability at heart. As a lawyer by training, qualifications, experience, and observation, I've seen many operations thought to be acting blithely within the law crumble to the ground when the courts have upheld unexpected, but valid challenges. I'm not suggesting this is likely in our case; but neither is it beyond the bounds of possibility, and at least if I bring risks to the attention of others, my hands are clean. Hope that helps. [1] and consuming unnecessary resources in TfDs

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[Foundation-l] Wikizine News - Year: 2011 Week: 39 Number: 129
by EN Wikizine 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

************************************************************ Wikizine.org's __ /\ \ \ ___ __ __ ___ / \/ // _ \\ \ /\ / // __| / /\ /| __/ \ V V / \__ \ \_\ \/ \___| \_/\_/ |___/ EDITION Year: 2011 Week: 39 Number: 129 ************************************************************ An independent internal news bulletin for the members of the Wikimedia community //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// === Technical news === [Babel on all Wikis] - There are a great deal of templates and signs that one can put on there user page. One of the most useful are the Babel-templates that indicate the knowledge of different languages. Now is there an extension active on all wikis for that. No need to manually setup all those templates on all wikis. The structure is easy; see the excellent blog posting of Mister Internationalisation himself - Gerard Meijssen. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/21/babel-extension-live-on-the-wmf-projec… [New mobile gateway] - There is a new mobile gateway active for the Wikipedias. The the other projects will follow. This is provided by new extension of MediaWiki 1.17, the software our wikis are using. This replaces the old mobile gateway. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/14/new-mobile-site-launched-on-wikipedia-… http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend [MediaWiki 1.8] - As announced in the TechFlash upgrade of the wikis is in progress. New functions in MediaWiki 1.8 include; - Support for gender-specific user pages: languages that have different words for User whether the user is male or female will be able to show the male or the female version, if the user has specified their gender in their preferences. - MediaWiki 1.18 will make it easier for left-to-right and right-to-left text to coexist on the same page. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/16/mediawiki118iscomin/ [Fundraiser-time?] - You could encounter the well known gigantic donation banner "personal appeal by ...". But no, it is not again the big fundraiser event. But only a banner test. If you see it then you where lucky. It is only at EN Wikipedia for anonymous users and generally only in certain countries. The tests are currently being conducted for 1 hour once a week. The real fundraiser will proably be in November. But, test or not, donations are welcome. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011 [Techs share knowledge] - Running a massive infrastructure like the WMF is using also mean that collect knowledge how to do that. In line with the mission of the WMF detailed information about the configuration of the system has been released so that others can learn from it. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/19/ever-wondered-how-the-wikimedia-server… [Operations Engineer goals] - In another post, Ryan Lane gives a longer story about his goals for the past year. http://ryandlane.com/blog/2011/09/19/ive-been-with-the-wikimedia-foundation… === Request for help === [Petition to UNSECO] - Wikimedia Foundation, with full support of founder Jimmy Wales, is asking to support the request to the UNESCO to recognize Wikipedia as the first "digital World Cultural Heritage Site". Over 51,000 people have signed the petition already. Your are suggested to spread the word of this petition (after you signed) by all the communication channels of the modern day. If you sign the petition need to confirm by a link send by e-mail http://wikipedia.de/wke/Main_Page [Sign-up for translation] - Frequently there are messages that need to be translated in, if possible, all the languages of the projects. If you like to volunteer to be a translator you can register yourself (see link) so when you are needed you can be contacted. https://sugar.corp.wikimedia.org/translators/translators.php?referrer=wikiz… === Bureaucracy === [Stewards election] - You can vote in the election for new stewards until 6 October. According to the present situation, 9 Wikimedians have a good chance to become stewards: Axpde, Bencmq, Bennylin, Quadell, Quentinv57, Teles, Trijnstel, Vituzzu and Wikitanvir. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2011-2 http://toolserver.org/~stewardbots/elections.php === Movement === [German Wikipedia] - On 15 September a poll on the German Wikipedia questioning participants about the proposed image filter was closed. German Wikipedians rejected implementation of an image filter on the German Wikipedia by a 86.23% majority (430 votes, 357 against, 57 in favour, 16 neutral). http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/068502.html http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%… (proposal, arguments and votes) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%… (proposal and arguments translation to English) [Germanophone WikiConvention] - Wikimedians from the three major German speaking countries gathered to share their knowledge about Wikipedia, Wikimedia and other wikis at the first ?WikiConvention?. More than 170 participants attended. http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/germanophone-wikiconvention-establ… http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiConvention (in German) http://blog.wikimedia.de/2011/09/06/treffpunkt-fur-freies-wissen/ (in German) [Deletionism] - "Wikipedia needs to return to simplicity" is a blog post by Urpo Lankinen in which the author explains why deletionism is bad. http://www.beastwithin.org/users/wwwwolf/blog/2011/09/wikipedia-needs-to-re… [European Year of Volunteering 2011] - On September 12, 2011 a group of Polish Wikimedians took part in an open public event of the European Year of Volunteering in Warsaw. *:http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=pl&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.pl&sl=pl&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://wyborcza.pl/1,91446,10276273,W_Pawilonie_ERW_dzien_e_wolontariatu.html&usg=ALkJrhjmnsC5XwCIo-fZsSmYuiR8RmFKCA *:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:ERW-2011 *:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_volunteering === Foundation === [WMF; no test] - The Wikimedia Foundation declined to allow developers to make a trial for restricting non-autoconfirmed users from creating articles on English Wikipedia. The rejection comes despite the support of around 2/3 of involved participants (~500 editors took a part). Discussion about the proposal on English Wikipedia started on 3 April 2011 and concluded on 27 May. Discussion about the implementation started on 11 July and concluded on 18 August. A bugzilla bug request was filled on 3 August, but developers refused to implement it. On 14 September Erik Moeller said that "[WMF] believe that creating a restriction of this type is a strong a statement of exclusion, not inclusion, and that it will confuse and deter good faith editors" and rejected the proposal, which sparked long discussion and resignation by community. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Proposa… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Proposa… https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208#c43 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/068494.html [Board minutes] - The Board has published minutes from Wikimania meeting of 3 August. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-08-03 === Chapters === [WM UK grants] - Wikimedia UK gives scholarships for traveling to the Wikimedia India conference for Wikimedians from UK. Deadline for applications is 27 September, 19:30 BST (UTC+1). http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2011/09/wikiconference-india-travel-grants/ http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_Scholarships [Wikipedia promo] - Wikimedia Sverige will be present at the Gothenburg Book Fair, around 100,000 visitors are expected to come by so it will be busy. WM Sverige has made 3 short silent movies to play at there stand. Because the are silent the can be used easily also by other Chapters, Wikimedia events. Wikimedia Sverige is even willing to localize it for you on request. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/55785 ==== Chapters reports ==== [Wikimedia UK] - Wikimedia UK has published August 2011 report. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2011/August [Wikimedia Philippines] - Wikimedia Philippines published annual report for 2010. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMPH_2010_Annual_Report.pdf === Science === [Wikimedia Ambassador survey] - Results from first Wikipedia Ambassador survey released by WMF. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/14/results-from-first-wikipedia-ambassado… [Wikipedia on WikiSym 2011] - The technical session during WikiSym 2011 "Understanding Wikipedia" will feature four presentations: "WP:Clubhouse? An Exploration of Wikipedia?s Gender Imbalance", "Gender Differences in Wikipedia Editing", "Finding Patterns in Behavioral Observations by Automatically Labeling Forms of Wikiwork in Barnstars" and "What Wikipedia Deletes: Characterizing Dangerous Collaborative Content". http://www.wikisym.org/2011/09/14/session-preview-understanding-wikipedia/ http://www.wikisym.org/category/wikisym-2011/ [Wikipedia's gender imbalance] - Paper "Clubhouse? An Exploration of Wikipedia?s Gender Imbalance" from Wikisym 2011 has been published. The CBC interviewed Sue Gardner and published a story about it. http://www.grouplens.org/node/466 http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2011/09/sue-gardner-on-wikipedias-gender-gap/ === Media === [Wikipedia Signpost] - A new edition of the Wikipedia Signpost has been published. Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250), the Signpost's editor-in-chief, leaves the Signpost to User:SMasters and User:Skomorokh, as his studies are going to begin soon. In this edition you can read the following stories and more: On the Wikinews fork, Back to school, ArbCom narrowly rejects application to open new case and so on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives/2011-09-… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SMasters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Skomorokh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-09-19/From_t… === Anniversaries === [Slovak Wikipedia] - 23 September 2003 is the best possible approximation of the date when the Slovak Wikipedia was created [1][2]. Slovak is a West Slavic language [3][4] spoken by 7 million people, mostly in Slovakia. Slovak Wikipedia has more than 127,000 articles [5] and more than 550 active users. Statistics [6] shows that Slovak Wikipedia is among the stable projects, which have a more or less constant number of new, active and very active Wikipedians. :[1] http://sk.wikipedia.org/ :[2] http://web.archive.org/web/20030923070746/http://sk.wikipedia.org/ :[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_language :[4] http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=slk :[5] http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=slk [Waray-Waray Wikipedia] - On 25 September the Waray-Waray Wikipedia[1][2] will be six years old. Waray-Waray[3] is an Austronesian language[3][4] spoken by 3.1 million inhabitants of Visayas[5] and Masbate[6] provinces of Philippines. It is used as a trade language, too. The Waray-Waray Wikipedia has more than 102,000 articles. Counting the number of speakers and considering the economic situation in Philippines, Waray-Waray Wikipedia is quite an active and successful project [7][8] (note the increase of new editors in 2010 in comparison to the number of new articles added to Wikipedia). Here is a short story about the beginnings of the Waray-Waray Wikipedia by war:User:Harvzs [9], the initiator of the Waray-Waray Wikipedia. ''The proposal for the Waray-Waray Wikipedia was made on or about June 23, 2005. The native speakers who volunteered to help edit was myself (User:Harvzsf in Meta) and User:v.oyzon. User:Katimawan2005 and User:Bentong from the Kapampangan and Cebuano Wikipedias were also among those who lent their support. The test-wikipedia was set up in Meta shortly after although test wikipedias weren't mandatory at that time and Incubator hadn't been in existence. The reason for the test Wikipedia was for the double purpose of creating content in the event that the request to create the wiki was granted and also to get some practice on how to create and edit the wiki. The Waray Wikipedia was created on or about September 24, 2005 along with the Neapolitan and Judeo-Spanish/Ladino Wikipedias. By a coincidence, the ISO codes for the 3 wikipedias coincided with actual one-syllable words in the English language war, nap and lad respectively :) ) Shortly after, I obtained administrator rights on the Waray-Waray Wikipedia. Ten days after the Waray-Waray Wikipedia was created, it reached 100 articles (the 100th article was [[war:Guiuan, Eastern Samar]]).'' :[1] http://war.wikipedia.org/ :[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waray-Waray_Wikipedia :[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waray-Waray_language :[4] http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=war :[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visayas :[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masbate :[7] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaWAR.htm :[8] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaWAR.htm :[9] http://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Harvzs [Polish Wikipedia] - On 26 September the Polish Wikipedia [1][2] Will be 10 years old. Polish is a West Slavic language spoken by more than 40 million speakers [3][4], mostly from Poland. With more than 831,000 articles [5], the Polish Wikipedia is the fifth largest Wikipedia by number of articles. During its first years of existence, the Polish Wikipedia was filled with a lot of bot-generated articles, which created significant positive feedback from Polish speakers and made the Polish Wikipedian community one of the most vital ones [6]. Wikimedia Poland [7][8] was created on 15 August 2005 thanks to the work of Polish Wikipedians. Wikimedia Poland recognizes its 10th anniversary of the project by organizing a conference to be held on September 24-25, in Poznan, Poland [9][10]. :[1] http://pl.wikipedia.org/ :[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Wikipedia :[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language :[4] http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=pol :[5] http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Statystyka :[6] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaPL.htm (cf. new articles per day and new editors) :[7] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Polska :[8] http://pl.wikimedia.org/ :[9] http://10lat.wikipedia.pl :[10] http://tinyurl.com/42tkjub (Google translate) Press release of Wikimedia Poland is below: :''The Polish Wikipedia was founded on September 26, 2001, being the eighth eldest Wikipedia to be established. Over the years, Polish Wikipedians have created over 830,000 articles, of which almost 500 have received a "Featured Article" status and additional 1,000 being categorised as "Good Articles".'' :''In a continuation of the year-long celebration of the 10th anniversary of Wikipedia, the Polish Wikipedia community is going to celebrate the 10th birthday of the project, with a conference being held on September 24?25 in Pozna?, Poland. Two weeks earlier, on September 10, the public exhibition of the winning POTY (Picture of the Year) pictures has been opened in one of the most prestigious shopping and art centres in Poland, the Stary Browar (Old Brewery). 16 pictures, chosen by Wikimedians from all over the world in an annual POTY contest, are shown at the exhibition, with descriptions provided in Polish, English and German.'' :''The conference will take place in the heart of the very best location in Pozna?. It will be open to the public, as one of the main goals of the organisers is to involve people from outside the Wikimedia movement; therefore, the conference is heavily advertised in the local media, with increasing daily press coverage.'' :''The event will consist of about 15 presentations and talks about Wikipedia. They will discuss Wikipedia's place in court judgements; Wikipedia's role as a source of information; the now-hot topic of women in the Wikipedia community, and many more topics. They will take an outside look at Wikipedia with a public screening of the documentary film ''Truth in Numbers?'', which will be followed by a discussion, a short surprise from the organising team, and the real celebration: a massive Wikipedia birthday cake.'' :''The Polish chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation has generously decided to refund the costs of coming to the conference for Wikimedians from Central and Eastern Europe; as of September 20, 13 Wikipedians from Azerbaijan, Belarus, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine and even Philippines have signed up for the conference. If you can't join us and you understand some Polish, don't worry ? all talks from the conference will be streamed live on a special Internet radio. After the event, all talks ? audio and video ? will be released under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 licence and made available on-line.'' :''Polish Wikipedians hope to have a great event, and even if you can't join them, please keep your fingers crossed!'' === Stats === *[RU WP] Russia Wikipedia has overtaken Japanese Wikipedia by the articles' count on 21 September 2011. :http://tinyurl.com/3cv7tlk -- RU Wikipedia :http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Wikipedias%2FTable&action=historysubmit&diff=2916894&oldid=2913733 === Events and meetups === [24 September] - Wiki Takes de Zaan (Netherlands) will be held on September 24th. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ontmoeten#Zaanstreek_24_september [24 September] - Wikipedia Takes Göteborg, Sweden http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikitr%C3%A4ffar#Fotosafari.2C_G.C3.… [24 September] - Wikipedia Takes Porto, Portugal http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikip%C3%A9dia_Toma_o_Porto [24-25 September] - Polish Wikipedia community, supported by Wikimedia Polska, is going to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the project (founded on September 26, 2001) with a conference to be held on September 24-25, in Poznan, Poland. http://10lat.wikipedia.pl http://tinyurl.com/42tkjub (Google translate) [25 September] - Wikipedia Takes Cologne, Germany http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_K%C3%B6ln [25 September] - Wikipedia Takes Lisbon, Portugal http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikip%C3%A9dia_Toma_Lisboa [3-5 October] - WikiSym - The International Symposium on Wikis and Open collaboration -2011 with the session "Understanding Wikipedia". http://www.wikisym.org/category/wikisym-2011/ http://www.wikisym.org/2011/09/14/session-preview-understanding-wikipedia/ === Wikizine === [Your reports] - Post your news for the next edition of Wikizine on Meta or in our Google form. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikizine/EN2011-130 http://tinyurl.com/wikizine-feedback === Quote === "Wikinews: Just because we wrote it in our pyjamas doesn't mean you shouldn't take us seriously." -- IRC quote //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// @@@@@@@@@@--------Wikizine-seeks-editors----------@@@@@@@@@@ °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° Editor(s): millosh, Kpjas, Shizhao,Walter Corrector(s): nathan Thanks to: kaldari, Theo10011, pgehres Support: Walter Contact: http://report.wikizine.org Website: http://www.wikizine.org Gophersite: gopher://gopher.wikizine.org °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° @@@@@@@@@@-------Wikizine-loves-feedback----------@@@@@@@@@@ //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Wikizine.org makes no guarantee of accuracy, validity and especially but not limited to, correct grammar and spelling. 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[Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people
by phoebe ayers 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

This week, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees unanimously passed a resolution addressing the issue of controversial content on the projects. The Board also unanimously passed a resolution addressing images of identifiable, living people on the projects. The resolutions are posted at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Controversial_content http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Images_of_identifiable_people These topics have been the subject of active debate on the Projects, and particularly on Commons, for a long time. Last June, following extensive community debate, the Wikimedia Foundation Board requested the Executive Director undertake a study of the issue of controversial content on the projects, acknowledging the difficulty of the issue (http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Commissioning_Recommendation…). Robert and Dory Harris were commissioned to do this study, which they did on meta in consultation with the community, publishing recommendations in September 2010. Their report is available at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Wikimedia_Study_of_Controversial_Content At its October 2010 meeting, the Board was presented with this report. The Board discussed the recommendations in depth, and developed a working group to act on them. The working group's report was presented at the Board's next in-person meeting, in March 2011; and these resolutions were subsequently drafted and voted on. The working group report has also been posted on meta, at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Controversial_content/Board_report Note that the controversial content resolution uses the term "curation." We are using this term to refer to all aspects of managing images and other content on our projects, including recruiting and acquiring contributions and uploading, categorizing, placement of images in articles and other pages (including gallery pages and the main page), featuring or highlighting, flagging for improvement, and deletion and removal. All of our projects are curated in line with broad editorial principles; this is an essential feature that distinguishes our projects from indiscriminate or general-purpose repositories. Not all of the Harris recommendations are addressed in this resolution. In particular: * At this time, we refer the recommendation to create a WikiJunior project to the editing community; the Board would like to see demonstrated community support before creating such a project. and * In agreement with the Harris report, we do not recommend that changes be made to current editing and/or filtering regimes surrounding text in Wikimedia projects; we feel editorial mechanisms regarding text are working well. Finally, we urge that the community, the Foundation and the Wikimedia movement continue to discuss the appropriate scope of Commons for fulfilling Wikimedia's mission; this is a difficult and important question. Thank you to everyone who has worked on this issue, and special thanks to Robert and Dory Harris for their hard work. -- Phoebe Ayers, on behalf of the Board working group and the Board

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[Foundation-l] Dumps mirroring (was: Request: WMF commitment as a long term cultural archive?)
by Strainu 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

2011/9/21 emijrp <emijrp(a)gmail.com>: > Hi all; > > Just like the scripts to preserve wikis[1], I'm working in a new script to > download all Wikimedia Commons images packed by day. But I have limited > spare time. Sad that volunteers have to do this without any help from > Wikimedia Foundation. > > I started too an effort in meta: (with low activity) to mirror XML dumps.[2] > If you know about universities or research groups which works with > Wiki[pm]edia XML dumps, they would be a possible successful target to mirror > them. > > If you want to download the texts into your PC, you only need 100GB free and > to run this Python script.[3] > > I heard that Internet Archive saves XML dumps quarterly or so, but no > official announcement. Also, I heard about Library of Congress wanting to > mirror the dumps, but not news since a long time. > > L'Encyclopédie has an "uptime"[4] of 260 years[5] and growing. Will > Wiki[pm]edia projects reach that? > > Regards, > emijrp > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ > [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dumps > [3] > http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/source/browse/trunk/wikipediadownloader.py > [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uptime > [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A9die > > Hi emirjrp, I can understand why you would prefer to have "full mirrors" of the dumps, but let's face it, 10TB is not (yet) something that most companies/universities can easily spare. Also, most people only work on 1-5 versions of Wikipedia, the rest is just overhead to them. My suggestion would be to accept mirrors of a single language and have a smart interface at dumps.wikimedia.org that redirects requests to the location that is the best match for the user. This system is used by some Linux distributions (see download.opensuse.org for instance) with great success. Regards, Strainu

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