Theo writes:
> Second, it might be some form of elitist outlook if you think accountability
> standards for US Non-profits are more transparent and fiscally responsible
> than say somewhere in EU like Germany, France or the Switzerland. I assure
> you, they are existent, not-minimal and more restrictive than the US.
I'm not contradicting (or necessarily agreeing) with other things you
say in this message, but I want to point out that transnational
transference of charitable funds is complicated no matter which
direction the money is flowing in. The real argument (in my personal
view, and not as a current or former representative of WMF) is not
that the rules for U.S. nonprofits are "more transparent and fiscally
responsible" than elsewhere. It's that the WMF is a U.S. nonprofit and
must (at minimum) operate under the U.S. rules. When you're looking at
multiple nonprofits (chapters) in many nations, which operate under a
range of differing regulatory rules about international transfers of
charitable funds, it is a non-trivial challenge to come up with a
single joint fundraising model that meets every nation's requirements.
So, when we discuss this issue, it's important that we recognize that
it's not a question of whose rules are "better," whose motives are
better, who is more trustworthy, etc. I believe it's appropriate for
everybody to continue Assuming Good Faith and to recognize that the
accountability/legality issue is a complicated one that requires a lot
of work to solve (and the solution may not be identical for every
cooperating chapter). Wikimedia Deutschland has invested a lot of
effort, for example, in developing a solution that works for the
German chapter, but the solution for another EU chapter (or for
chapters in the Global South or elsewhere) may look significantly
different.
This is all further complicated by WMF's obligation to obey U.S. rules.
I'm reminded of the quotation commonly (if not entirely accurately)
attributed to Einstein: “Everything should be made as simple as
possible, but no simpler.” (See
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein .)
--Mike
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robin Pepermans <robinp.1273(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:46
Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Language commitee report - August 2011
To: the Wikimedia Incubator <incubator(a)lists.wikimedia.org>,
wikimediaannounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
See the wiki version here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/Reports/2011-08
This is the language committee report for August 2011.
=== Committee ===
* Wikimedia Australia and Wikimedia Indonesia are collaborating with
the language committee to organise a 2012 Languages Conference in
Indonesia. More info:
http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:2012_Languages_conference
=== Requests ===
* Discussion about the request for a Northern Sotho Wikipedia. It
lacks activity, but it has been in the Incubator for years while
having the highest number of articles in a indigenous South African
language.
* Discussion about the request for a Lezgi Wikipedia. One very active
editor, but more contributors are needed.
No formal approval (yet), but both or one of them may be approved soon.
=== Related ===
* The ISO 639-3 standard decided not to retire the language code
'www', even though it conflicts with websites like the
'www.wikipedia.org' portal. The code 'www' is assigned to Wawa, a
language of Cameroon spoken by about 3000 people.
* The Wikimedia Incubator now has "welcome pages" -- for example
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nl links to the Dutch Wikipedia
at http://nl.wikipedia.org/ while
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wn/aa says that it doesn't exist
and invites users to start that project. This will in the future
replace general "wiki does not exist" placeholders. More info:
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2011/08/wikimedia-incubator-improvement…
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