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[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 20 – 16 May 2011
by Wikipedia Signpost 17 May '11

17 May '11

News and notes: Geographical distribution of Wikipedia edits; Sue Gardner interviewed; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16/News_a… In the news: Education minister's speech copied from Wikipedia; Jimmy Wales interviewed; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16/In_the… WikiProject report: Back to Life: Reviving WikiProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16/WikiPr… Features and admins: The best of the week http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16/Featur… Arbitration report: Motions - hyphens and dashes dispute http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16/Arbitr… Technology report: Berlin Hackathon; April Engineering Report; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16/Techno… Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-16 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

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[Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery?
by Andreas Kolbe 16 May '11

16 May '11

There is a long thread on the Commons and Gendergap lists about today's featured image on Commons: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/ http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2011-May/ It's an original piece of art by a Wikimedian, "in the style of" erotic manga: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg The picture was removed from the main page by a WMF staff member, acting as an ordinary editor, and then restored a few hours later by a Commons admin. Aspects of the image that have been discussed include the fact that * it has no noteworthy artistic value * it is used to showcase a Wikimedian's artwork on the project main page * it lacks educational value, being the work of a non-notable Wikimedian * it makes the Foundation look puerile * it might turn off serious educators * it might turn off older people * it might turn off schools * it might turn off women * it might turn off institutions owning valuable content from donating to the Foundation * it is the victim of cultural fascism directed against manga/anime * it is the victim of prudery * it is the victim of censorship * not showing the image on the mian page would undermine the Foundation's mission etc. etc. This is really a Foundation topic though. Are projects' main pages there to showcase Wikimedians' fine art? If yes, then why do we not have songs by unsigned garage bands "in the style of ..." as featured media of the day? Should the Foundation establish guidelines on what type of content to feature on project main pages? Crossposted to Foundation-l, Commons-l and Gendergap. Andreas

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[Foundation-l] User talk page email notification
by Tim Starling 16 May '11

16 May '11

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot. - Tim Starling

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[Foundation-l] User talk page email notification. Good change, but needs tweaking
by WereSpielChequers 15 May '11

15 May '11

I noticed this was on when I received my first Email about a post on my EN wiki talkpage, so it is on and I think we can assume working by default for everyone who has set an email address. But I think the message was copied from something to do with watchlisting, without fully changing it. I think we could make it slightly less brusque and more related to talkpages by changing: "Dear WereSpielChequers, The Wikipedia page User talk:WereSpielChequers has been changed on 14 May 2011 by MC10, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WereSpielChequers for the current revision. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WereSpielChequers&diff=… for all changes since your last visit. Editor's summary: /* Mail */ new section Contact the editor: mail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/MC10 wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MC10 There will be no other notifications in case of further changes unless you visit this page. You could also reset the notification flags for all your watched pages on your watchlist. Your friendly Wikipedia notification system -- To change your watchlist settings, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist/edit To delete the page from your watchlist, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WereSpielChequers&actio… Feedback and further assistance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents" To Dear WereSpielChequers, You have a new message on your talkpage, your fellow editor MC10 left you a message on 14 May 2011 with the edit summary " /* Mail */ new section". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WereSpielChequers for your messages. Or http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WereSpielChequers&diff=… for all messages since your last visit. We won't send you any more emails about messages on your talkpage unless you login and look at the message(s) already waiting for you. To opt out of further emails telling you you have messages on the English language version of Wikipedia, just login and reset your preferences at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#preftab-0 Your friendly Wikipedia notification system" WereSpielChequers

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[Foundation-l] Bring your kids to Wikimania?
by Delphine Ménard 13 May '11

13 May '11

Hello all, As part of the community grows older (yes, we do), I suppose that many more of us have kids. And maybe you were thinking... "what i I bring my family to Wikimania?" and thought "na, too complicated". Well, the Haifa organizing team has been looking into babysitting/child care solutions, and we have a potential solution for those of you who would like to bring their kids to Haifa. This said, we'd need to know whether or not you actually intend to bring your kids. I'm bringing mine, they're a lot of fun, and would love to have playmates to have fun with. So if you were asking yourself whether this could be an option, I would love to know whether or not it's something you've considered and if you've toyed with the idea, think again, as we may have the perfect solution for you to attend the conference and still make this a family holiday. If you're interested in taking part in a babysitting solution, or still have questions about whether or not it makes sense to bring your kids, please send me an email at delphine [at] notafish (punto) org, and we can discuss our options. Best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org

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Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]
by Nihiltres 13 May '11

13 May '11

(Please pardon my not quoting earlier emails) I think a URL shortener is a great idea if we can make it work right. We do need, however, to sort out our issues, e.g. the following list: *Choice of domain name(s) (or a TLD) **Acquisition of domain name(s) **Registration of TLD (if applicable) **Maintenance and admin. of the above, including costs **Length of domain name/TLD *Implementation of URL shortening **Namespacing for projects/languages **Whether to encode pagenames/IDs/etc. **How to encode pagenames/IDs/etc. I'm not particularly familiar with the process for TLDs, and I don't mind the choice of domain much as long as it's short, but I pondered Wikimedia URL shorteners one day and came up with the following system for a Wikimedia URL shortening service: *The domain wi.ki (at 5 characters, it's among the shortest, and is very obvious despite the problematic "wiki" vs. "Wikimedia" confusion) *First, a base 64 encoded ID number for project and language. This has the advantage of fitting up to 4096 projects before needing three characters, and would allow some of the most heavily-used wikis to use only one character for their ID. One potential snag is that we would want to substitute other characters for "a" and "A" in this area so that the URL didn't start with http://wi.ki/a/ and confuse us with Wikia. *Next, a slash to separate the project number from the page number. *Next, a base 64 encoded revision ID. By using the revision ID to determine the target page, we get around the problem of page-moves, and we could add the option of adding a control character (e.g. +) at the end to make a permanent link to that particular revision, an option that many proposals don't allow for. *An ideal implementation would allow one to prepend a control character to use a transparent link. Thus, we'd have links something like these: http://wi.ki/0/ZXh8g http://wi.ki/0/ZXh8g+ http://wi.ki/0/+Foobar In the above examples, the first would go to [[w:en:Foobar]], the second to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foobar&oldid=425598752 , and the third again to [[w:en:Foobar]] but in a more transparent way. "Foobar" might be a bad example, since the title itself is so short that encoding it doesn't save many characters. Nihiltres

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[Foundation-l] happy birthday, Wikipedias
by phoebe ayers 12 May '11

12 May '11

Tomorrow (May 11) is another anniversary date: it's been 10 years since the first group of non-English Wikipedias came online. Originally with spelled-out names rather than language codes, these sites were: catalan.wikipedia.com chinese.wikipedia.com esperanto.wikipedia.com french.wikipedia.com deutsche.wikipedia.com hebrew.wikipedia.com italian.wikipedia.com japanese.wikipedia.com portuguese.wikipedia.com spanish.wikipedia.com russian.wikipedia.com (from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-May/000116.html) The idea of having Wikipedias in multiple languages came from Jimbo in March 2001 (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-March/000048.html); note that the original German Wikipedia was actually set up at that time, making it the second-oldest Wikipedia. Though the idea of using two-letter domain codes was first raised then, after the above sites were brought online in May there was further discussion, and the sites were switched to two-letter codes a few days later: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-May/000132.html. Happy tenth birthday, Wikipedias! (and many more!) May all of our language editions flourish. -- phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers <at> gmail.com *

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[Foundation-l] Welcome Wikimedia Macau
by Asaf Bartov 11 May '11

11 May '11

Hello, everyone. I'd like to publicly welcome our colleagues at Wikimedia Macau on being recognized as a Wikimedia Chapter. May you create and share much knowledge! Asaf Bartov Head of Global South Relationships Wikimedia Foundation -- Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov(a)gmail.com>

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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 86, Issue 11
by Анатолій Гончаров 11 May '11

11 May '11

German and Catalan wikis was created on March 2001 2011/5/11 <foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Happy birthday. > > If you read carefully the mail you are pointing to there it says: > > "Toan and I added 9 new other-language wikis to the mix." > > But in the list there are 11 languages. > > The difference is because it was not the first group of non-English > Wikipedias coming online. > > > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 16:13:55 -0700 > > From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: [Foundation-l] happy birthday, Wikipedias > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Message-ID: <BANLkTi=BUtCZyCPV589iOrjqjp1Wkvv4-g(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Tomorrow (May 11) is another anniversary date: it's been 10 years > > since the first group of non-English Wikipedias came online. > > Originally with spelled-out names rather than language codes, these > > sites were: > > > > catalan.wikipedia.com > > chinese.wikipedia.com > > esperanto.wikipedia.com > > french.wikipedia.com > > deutsche.wikipedia.com > > hebrew.wikipedia.com > > italian.wikipedia.com > > japanese.wikipedia.com > > portuguese.wikipedia.com > > spanish.wikipedia.com > > russian.wikipedia.com > > > > (from > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-May/000116.html) > > > > The idea of having Wikipedias in multiple languages came from Jimbo in > > March 2001 ( > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-March/000048.html > ); > > note that the original German Wikipedia was actually set up at that > > time, making it the second-oldest Wikipedia. Though the idea of using > > two-letter domain codes was first raised then, after the above sites > > were brought online in May there was further discussion, and the sites > > were switched to two-letter codes a few days later: > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-May/000132.html. > > > > Happy tenth birthday, Wikipedias! (and many more!) May all of our > > language editions flourish. > > > > -- phoebe > > > > > > -- > > * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers > > <at> gmail.com * > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Анатолій Гончаров mailto:ahonc@wikimediaukraine.org.ua ICQ: 364-176-156

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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 86, Issue 11
by Joan Goma 11 May '11

11 May '11

Happy birthday. If you read carefully the mail you are pointing to there it says: "Toan and I added 9 new other-language wikis to the mix." But in the list there are 11 languages. The difference is because it was not the first group of non-English Wikipedias coming online. > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 16:13:55 -0700 > From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Foundation-l] happy birthday, Wikipedias > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <BANLkTi=BUtCZyCPV589iOrjqjp1Wkvv4-g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Tomorrow (May 11) is another anniversary date: it's been 10 years > since the first group of non-English Wikipedias came online. > Originally with spelled-out names rather than language codes, these > sites were: > > catalan.wikipedia.com > chinese.wikipedia.com > esperanto.wikipedia.com > french.wikipedia.com > deutsche.wikipedia.com > hebrew.wikipedia.com > italian.wikipedia.com > japanese.wikipedia.com > portuguese.wikipedia.com > spanish.wikipedia.com > russian.wikipedia.com > > (from > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-May/000116.html) > > The idea of having Wikipedias in multiple languages came from Jimbo in > March 2001 ( > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-March/000048.html); > note that the original German Wikipedia was actually set up at that > time, making it the second-oldest Wikipedia. Though the idea of using > two-letter domain codes was first raised then, after the above sites > were brought online in May there was further discussion, and the sites > were switched to two-letter codes a few days later: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2001-May/000132.html. > > Happy tenth birthday, Wikipedias! (and many more!) May all of our > language editions flourish. > > -- phoebe > > > -- > * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers > <at> gmail.com * > > > > >

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