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Tim Starling

14 May 2011 14 May '11

10:28 a.m.

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot. - Tim Starling

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Orionist

14 May 14 May

12:38 p.m.

That's great news! What is the default position by the way? I suggest to make it on by default for all new users. That will hopefully help us bring back some of those editors lost before their fifth edit. And for registered users, we can spread the news through a site notice. Regards, -- Orionist On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Tim Starling <tstarling(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot. - Tim Starling _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Samuel Klein

2:37 p.m.

Thank you, that is just great! On 5/14/11, Orionist <orion.ist(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I suggest to make it on by default for all new users. That will hopefully help us bring back some of those editors lost before their fifth edit. And for registered users, we can spread the news through a site notice.

+1 to both ideas. Perhaps highlighting that enotif option, or the email field if empty, when preferences are opened for the first time. SJ

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Casey Brown

2:59 p.m.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Orionist <orion.ist(a)gmail.com> wrote:

What is the default position by the way?

I checked my preferences on enwiki and the box was checked, so I would assume the default is for it to be checked. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023

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Thomas Morton

3:03 p.m.

Yep. Same here. Tom Morton On 14 May 2011, at 15:59, Casey Brown <lists(a)caseybrown.org> wrote:

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Orionist <orion.ist(a)gmail.com> wrote:

What is the default position by the way?

I checked my preferences on enwiki and the box was checked, so I would assume the default is for it to be checked. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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CherianTinu Abraham

15 May 15 May

1:58 a.m.

The option "E-mail me when my user talk page is changed" was checked on "My Preferences" , so I assume this is default. I always wondered why this feature wasn't there by default. This is particularly important for the just registered and new users, to at least return back once to the Wiki. I used to welcome large number of users but many of them would not have probably seen this, because they never got back to their User Talk pages, not knowing someone had welcomed and also offered to help. Email address is a basic requirement for any user registration on the internet and I am hoping that it would be made mandatory also on the Wikimedia sites. Regards Tinu Cherian On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Orionist <orion.ist(a)gmail.com> wrote:

That's great news! What is the default position by the way? I suggest to make it on by default for all new users. That will hopefully help us bring back some of those editors lost before their fifth edit. And for registered users, we can spread the news through a site notice. Regards, -- Orionist On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Tim Starling <tstarling(a)wikimedia.org

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Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all

wikis.

The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot. - Tim Starling _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Ziko van Dijk

12:38 p.m.

Absolutely - a major problem of ours is that we often cannot communicate properly with (new) users. Kind regards Ziko

Email address is a basic requirement for any user registration on the internet and I am hoping that it would be made mandatory also on the Wikimedia sites. Regards Tinu Cherian

-- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/

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Keegan Peterzell

10:39 p.m.

Thanks to the devs, and thanks to MZMcBride for raising the opportunity.

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Thomas Morton

16 May 16 May

1:06 p.m.

This causes a little confusion today :) when it was mistook for an email message from a bot (which had edited the users talk page and cause the notification). (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide… ) Did anyone announce this "on-wiki"? Tom On 15 May 2011 23:39, Keegan Peterzell <keegan.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to the devs, and thanks to MZMcBride for raising the opportunity. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Bartol Flint

1:21 p.m.

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Keegan Peterzell <keegan.wiki(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

Thanks to the devs, and thanks to MZMcBride for raising the opportunity. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

This is great, Thank you. -- Bartol Flint Student Erasmus University Rotterdam

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MZMcBride

14 May 14 May

3:48 p.m.

Tim Starling wrote:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis.

Fantastic! Thanks. :-) MZMcBride

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Sue Gardner

4:32 p.m.

On 14 May 2011 08:48, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:

Tim Starling wrote:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis.

Fantastic! Thanks. :-)

Yep -- this is really great. Thanks Tim & everyone :-)

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Isabell Long

4:42 p.m.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:28:03PM +0200, Tim Starling wrote:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis.

This will definitely come in useful. Thanks a lot! Isabell. ENWP:User:Issyl0

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Amory Meltzer

8:35 p.m.

Awesome! On Saturday, May 14, 2011, Tim Starling <tstarling(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot. - Tim Starling _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

-- ~A

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Ting Chen

15 May 15 May

7:55 a.m.

Very nice, thank you very much developers. On 14.05.2011 12:28, wrote Tim Starling:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot. - Tim Starling _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

-- Ting Ting's Blog: http://wingphilopp.blogspot.com/

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

9:02 a.m.

Tim Starling, 14/05/2011 12:28:

Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis. The issue came up at the MediaWiki developer meeting here in Berlin. A few ops people were sitting together, we couldn't think of any reason why it wasn't enabled yet, so we just did it on the spot.

Great! So no actual load issues? If so, you may want to enable notifications also for watchlist: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28026 Watchlist notifications should definitely be off by default at least for old users (new users can disable them when they have too many pages in their watchlist but old ones would receive thousands of emails in a day before doing so), while I agree that talk page notifications should be true by default for everyone: we need to contact also old and inactive users and only a tiny fraction of (very active) users needs to disable them; anyway, they won't receive many emails, just one before they visit the talk page. Nemo

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Amory Meltzer
Bartol Flint
Casey Brown
CherianTinu Abraham
Federico Leva (Nemo)
Isabell Long
Keegan Peterzell
MZMcBride
Orionist
Samuel Klein
Sue Gardner
Thomas Morton
Tim Starling
Ting Chen
Ziko van Dijk