Stop complaining, there's IRC discussion on this list all of the time (not
that this one needs continuation).
On Nov 12, 2007 11:32 AM, White Cat < wikipedia.kawaii.neko(a)gmail.com>
> Where am I supposed to post it then?
> - White Cat
> On Nov 12, 2007 6:25 PM, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 12, 2007 6:13 AM, Aphaia < aphaia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On Nov 12, 2007 8:52 PM, Dan Collins <en.wp.st47(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > And finally, why are we discussing this on foundation-l?
> > >
> > > Thanks for pointing it out. Possibly to reassure that particular IRC
> > > channel issues are off topic on this mailinglist basically, and this
> > > incident (or those?) are sure falling in this off-topic category, I
> > > suppose ...
> > >
> > > So, it is so off-topic that I'd like to avoid giving my opinion about
> > > that here on the list. Perhaps many of others too.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --
> > > KIZU Naoko
> > > Wikiquote <http://wikiquote.org> is a free online project for building
> > > collections of quotations, hosted by Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
> > > Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD
> > >
> > Yes this is SO offtopic:
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-June/030884.html
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When exactly will anonymous page creations be enabled? I thought it was supposed to happen yesterday but it never did.
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On the Moldavian Wikipedia it says for over a month "This wiki has been
closed for now." Is there any outlook on whether 'for now' means 'for ever'
or that it will be re-opened at some time? I am asking because I want to
know what to do with the interwiki for the bot. If the wiki is closed down
for good, I intend to remove them silently; if it will be opened up again
some time soon, I want to keep them in the same way as to 'normal'
Andre Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com
ICQ: 6260644 -- Skype: a_engels
"Don't be a dick" is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak.
Here's an opt-in proposal, have it appear on the FIRST edit from
any IP or registered user INSTEAD of a [Save Page] button - button is
grayed out until all these checks are checked:
== Editor opt-in ==
__ No spam
__ No vandalism
__ No off-topic contributions
I, ~~~~, agree, signed: __________.
Keep it simple. Get on with it.
Oh, and by the way, admins are held to the same standard, where
deleting something that's not spam, not vandalism, not off-topic is
itself considered vandalism(!), your deletion shall be undeleted, your
admin license shall be revoked, return to square one to try again just
like every other newbie.
== Report abuse page ==
__ deleted non-spam, non-vandalism, non-off-topic contribution
__ banned user __________
Please review, link: __________
Signed ~~~~: __________
... Then let the public participate!
== Admin opt-in ==
__ put spam, vandalism, and off-topic contributions in a delete
queue for review for other admins and the public, three reviewers, or
majority, which ever is highest, must agree
__ put user in a temporary block queue, include reference link,
three reviewers, or majority, which ever is highest, must agree
__ clearly explain your problem with the contribution
__ never resolve your own arguments with deletion and banning,
instead defer to other admins and the public
I, ~~~~, agree, signed: __________.
I think people are easily distracted by "be civil" and the like.
Some people think that means don't argue, or don't revisit a discourse
more than once, or don't repeat yourself. Admins are the worst offender
against "don't be a dick", including posting a web page saying "don't be
a dick". That one should go - but that's an editing choice, not a spam
/ vandal / off-topic situation.
All else is setting examples. For instance, I'd like to learn
how to be patient, tolerant, accepting, and show equivalent
consideration to all other contributors. What are you all working on?
In a message dated 11/8/2007 9:36:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
1] I'm excluding the 900 donations of 1 penny. It appears that 1 or more
people are systematically donating pennies to pump the donor counter. A
similar trend was not present in 2006.
Actually, penny donations were quite high then too. We simply did not list
them. Brad Patrick did quite a bit of research into what they were, and it
seems that in most cases, it is simply people testing stolen credit card numbers.
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>> Donation figures are based on raw data and may not accurately match up
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>> Date Number of Contributions Amount of Contributions in USD Average in USD
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>> 2007-10-23 1709 43,097.28 25.22
>> 2007-10-24 1425 39,073.13 27.42
>> 2007-10-25 1047 26,999.90 25.79
>> 2007-10-26 1166 29,706.96 25.48
>> 2007-10-27 997 27,989.68 28.07
>> 2007-10-28 975 26,793.09 27.48
>> 2007-10-29 818 22,099.67 27.02
>> 2007-10-30 761 19,999.20 26.28
>> 2007-10-31 821 24,637.31 30.01
>> 2007-11-01 740 18,962.11 25.62
>> 2007-11-02 646 28,666.99 44.38
>> 2007-11-03 569 19,040.05 33.46
>> 2007-11-04 1326 36,457.28 27.49
>> 2007-11-05 1509 40,509.86 26.85
>> 2007-11-06 1229 38,301.32 31.16
>> 2007-11-07 1445 39,097.59 27.06
>> Total 17185 481,531.43 28.02
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The following was posted to internal-l by Sue regarding a possible
'Edit Wikipedia Week' to be held in December as part of a way of
keeping the momentum of the fundraiser going. All are invited to
participate in the planning for this event at
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sue Gardner <sgardner(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Nov 5, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: [Internal-l] Edit Wikipedia Week: call for participation
To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
I'm writing to invite you –chapters, individuals, everyone- to help
stage a bunch of "Edit Wikipedia Week" events in December. The idea is
to pick a date, probably the week of December 3, and stage outreach
events around the world designed to encourage people to participate in
The events could be practically anything – big or small. You could
speak about the projects at a local school; get yourself booked on TV;
talk to a local photography club about contributing to Commons;
organize a marathon weekend of translations; recruit new people to
help you launch a WikiProject, or even just teach your mom how to
edit. Anything that you think will improve the projects: the purpose
is to reach out to people who don't edit, and encourage them to make a
This is intended to be an experiment. The premise is that anyone can
organize an event under this umbrella idea, and it can take whatever
form makes sense to them. Nobody needs permission: feel free to just
Why now? As you know we're in the middle of the annual fundraiser,
which this year runs from October 22 to December 23. Because it's so
long, we want to stage events at various points, designed to keep the
media and the public paying attention. We've got some Wikipedia
Academies coming up in South Africa
http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Academies on November 10
and 11, with Jimmy, Frank Schulenburg and Ndesanjo Macha. Edit
Wikipedia Week would be the next big event after that.
This would be focused on Wikipedia, because it's our biggest and best
known project, and therefore most likely to generate interest among
the media and general public. That doesn't mean we couldn't hold
similar events for Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikisource, or any other WMF
project. Implementation-wise, I'm thinking of having us set up
edit.wikipedia.org, which would redirect to pages in the local
Wikipedias. Each of those pages would also refer back to the ongoing
fundraiser with a little info-box (something along the lines of "There
are different ways to help Wikipedia..").
I'm also going to ask Cary to make a page for this on meta, where we
can discuss it, and people can post events. I would ask you please to
translate and share this note with whoever you like. I know that not
everyone can afford to make a financial contribution to the
fundraiser: I am hoping some people will choose to support it (us) by
helping with Edit Wikipedia Week instead.
The first thing we'll need to do is finalize a date. I think December
3 would probably work best, but please let me know if/why you think
another week would be better.
And lastly .. I am thinking this could become an annual event. In that
spirit, this year may be a little wonky and haphazard, which would be
okay. If it goes well, we'll learn some good lessons, and next year
will be better :-)
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----- Original Message ----
From: GerardM gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
Once money has been given to the WMF, the WMF can spend the money where it
wants. People or organisations may deduct taxes under certain conditions. If
these conditions are met is none of our business.
That's not actually true. US-based non-profits typically have restricted funds and non-restricted funds. Money given under non-restricted funds can be used however the non-profit feels is necessary. However, money specifically given to certain projects must be used for those projects. Reading Cary's email, it looks like this gift was given *specifically* for use in creating various illustrations for Wikipedia projects. That is the only thing that the money can be used for. IANAL and don't have access to the specifics of the grant, but things like employment taxes would probably be covered. Most grants require specific accounting back to the people giving the money on how they funds were spent.
The Board resolutions from the last meeting are now all public on:
Perhaps the most interesting one from a community point of view is the
"Philip Greenspun illustrations project", about which a separate
announcement will be posted shortly.