Dear all,
OK, I do not want to hurt anyone while saying this, so please feel free to shunt this email and never to talk to me again if I am out of place and maybe you've discussed this for ever or something.
I find the WLM monuments logo a bit sad. It's very academic, it says what it should, but if I try to imagine it on a cap or an armband or a t-shirt, I'm left a bit un-wow-ed.
So I was thinking that maybe launching a logo competition might be a good way to: *get a funkier logo *get some attention in the Wikimedia communities
What do you think? I am actually ready to launch it and monitor it and maybe find a jury and and and and...
Cheers,
Delphine
Delphine,
I agree with you :-) It also has some problems when you try to use it in different layouts, at least to me...
+1 with Delphine, the logo should be more attractive, for sure. So if you're ready to monitor a competition to get a new logo I totally agree. But think we should keep this competition as simple as possible, so that the logo can be ready before June. On the timeline on commons [1] we've got in June a "Design promotion material and get it printed if you want to distribute it.".
Thanks Delphine.
Sylvain
2011/3/29 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Delphine,
I agree with you :-) It also has some problems when you try to use it in different layouts, at least to me...
-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
I agree to!, the logo is also to close of the Wikiversity one for me
charles
2011/3/30 Sylvain Machefert smachefert@gmail.com
+1 with Delphine, the logo should be more attractive, for sure. So if you're ready to monitor a competition to get a new logo I totally agree. But think we should keep this competition as simple as possible, so that the logo can be ready before June. On the timeline on commons [1] we've got in June a "Design promotion material and get it printed if you want to distribute it.".
Thanks Delphine.
Sylvain
2011/3/29 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Delphine,
I agree with you :-) It also has some problems when you try to use it in different layouts, at least to me...
-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hay is never going to look at you again! ;-)
We used this logo last year, might be time for a new one. I don't really care how we get a new logo, as long as it's ready in time. Competition sound like fun. Let the games begin!
Maarten
Op 29 mrt 2011 om 22:56 heeft Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:\
Dear all,
OK, I do not want to hurt anyone while saying this, so please feel free to shunt this email and never to talk to me again if I am out of place and maybe you've discussed this for ever or something.
I find the WLM monuments logo a bit sad. It's very academic, it says what it should, but if I try to imagine it on a cap or an armband or a t-shirt, I'm left a bit un-wow-ed.
So I was thinking that maybe launching a logo competition might be a good way to: *get a funkier logo *get some attention in the Wikimedia communities
What do you think? I am actually ready to launch it and monitor it and maybe find a jury and and and and...
Cheers,
Delphine
-- @notafish
NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl wrote:
Hay is never going to look at you again! ;-)
Ouch.
We used this logo last year, might be time for a new one. I don't really care how we get a new logo, as long as it's ready in time. Competition sound like fun. Let the games begin!
OK, let's go forward with this then.
Here are some of the criteria I was thinking about, input welcome:
MUST *logo must be svg. *logo must be CC-BY or CC-BY-SA *logo must be easily usable on promotion material (caps, mugs, buttons, posters, leaflets etc.) and on many color backgrounds
NICE TO HAVE *logo _does not_ have to be a nth derivative of the Wikimedia Community logo *logo must be recognizable from afar *logo should be as "language neutral" as possible. This means for example that text should be rendered in font rather than in vectors to allow for possible translations/adaptations. =>not sure about this...thoughts? *logo should be as "international" as possible, and speak to the wider community. *logo should not be time tied, but should allow for variations (such as year, maybe place)
DOs and DON'Ts Visual guidelines: * no or very straightforward gradient (difficult to render on swag) * sharp contours (no messy background, also difficult to render on swag) * black/white and/or grayscale must be easy to render (logo must be contrasted) * easily scalable (a big-size logo must look as nice as a small-size logo)
BRIEF: Wiki loves monument is a photo contest that engages the Wikimedia community and the community at large to work at making pictures of listed monuments around the world. 2011 will be the first time that Wiki Loves Monuments happens in a coordinated fashion and on a wide scale, in Europe. More about the project here: (link to Commons page). In order to make this a success, several Wikimedia chapters and groups of community members are working on coordinating the organisation of the event. The logo will be used on promotional material (leaflets, swag etc.) for participants, on posters to advertise the event and on brochures to present the project to potential partner institutions. We need a cool logo that will represent both the "serious" spirit of the event (we're talking about "governement" listed monuments) but that will also engage community participants and make them proud of displaying it as much as possible. Although the event is coordinated this year for Europe, we hope to make this a recurring and world-wide event in the years to come.
*Logo competition runs as of now, last submissions must be entered before the 17th of April 23.59 UTC. After that date, only variations/adaptations of a same logo may be presented by designers to the voters. *Votes are ongoing, votes close on the 30th of April => not sure about ongoing votes? *Comments are welcome and even desired *Community vote on meta or Commons? (note: my preference would go to commons, but I don't really care) *Voting closes on the 27th of April, 23.59 UTC
How to participate: *Upload your logo on Commons in an svg format and tag it with the category [[Category:Wiki Loves Monuments logo contest]]. *Make sure the logo is under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA *List your logo on the designated page under the format: == Name of logo == *by [[User:XXXX]] ===Votes=== (votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit) ===Comments===
I think I've covered it all.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Delphine
Hi all
That's looks perfect Delphine ! Thanks !
Benoît
Le 30 mars 2011 10:13, Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com a écrit :
Thoughts?
Hello everybody,
Sounds great! I just have one question, the voting ends on the 27th or the 30th of Abril? Maybe i would only open the voting from the 17th on (after the last submission). And voting on Commons makes more sense, i think.
Susana
2011/3/30 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Hi all
That's looks perfect Delphine ! Thanks !
Benoît
Le 30 mars 2011 10:13, Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com a écrit :
Thoughts?
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
new logo might be nice :) Thanks Delphine for picking this up.
Voting when all logo's are in seems more intuitive, but if we want people to improve logos during the competition, then voting should start immediately (And yes, that gives a head start). As long as we're sure there was enough time to come up with a decent set, and there is enough time to vote after the last proposal is in. We can btw always nitpick details when in Berlin again :) Maybe good to mention that, so that people dont shoot a proposal off because a little detail is not perfect yet.
Lodewijk
2011/3/30 Susana Morais susana.morais@wikimedia.pt
Hello everybody,
Sounds great! I just have one question, the voting ends on the 27th or the 30th of Abril? Maybe i would only open the voting from the 17th on (after the last submission). And voting on Commons makes more sense, i think.
Susana
2011/3/30 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Hi all
That's looks perfect Delphine ! Thanks !
Benoît
Le 30 mars 2011 10:13, Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com a écrit :
Thoughts?
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
We're on...
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Logo_contest
Please distribute as widely as possible.
Thanks :)
Delphine
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
new logo might be nice :) Thanks Delphine for picking this up. Voting when all logo's are in seems more intuitive, but if we want people to improve logos during the competition, then voting should start immediately (And yes, that gives a head start). As long as we're sure there was enough time to come up with a decent set, and there is enough time to vote after the last proposal is in. We can btw always nitpick details when in Berlin again :) Maybe good to mention that, so that people dont shoot a proposal off because a little detail is not perfect yet. Lodewijk
2011/3/30 Susana Morais susana.morais@wikimedia.pt
Hello everybody, Sounds great! I just have one question, the voting ends on the 27th or the 30th of Abril? Maybe i would only open the voting from the 17th on (after the last submission). And voting on Commons makes more sense, i think. Susana
2011/3/30 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Hi all
That's looks perfect Delphine ! Thanks !
Benoît
Le 30 mars 2011 10:13, Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com a écrit :
Thoughts?
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Nice. I just have some doubts about ongoing votes. That would give early entries a handicap (as in golf) advantage.
2011/3/30 Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl wrote:
Hay is never going to look at you again! ;-)
Ouch.
We used this logo last year, might be time for a new one. I don't really care how we get a new logo, as long as it's ready in time. Competition sound like fun. Let the games begin!
OK, let's go forward with this then.
Here are some of the criteria I was thinking about, input welcome:
MUST *logo must be svg. *logo must be CC-BY or CC-BY-SA *logo must be easily usable on promotion material (caps, mugs, buttons, posters, leaflets etc.) and on many color backgrounds
NICE TO HAVE *logo _does not_ have to be a nth derivative of the Wikimedia Community logo *logo must be recognizable from afar *logo should be as "language neutral" as possible. This means for example that text should be rendered in font rather than in vectors to allow for possible translations/adaptations. =>not sure about this...thoughts? *logo should be as "international" as possible, and speak to the wider community. *logo should not be time tied, but should allow for variations (such as year, maybe place)
DOs and DON'Ts Visual guidelines:
- no or very straightforward gradient (difficult to render on swag)
- sharp contours (no messy background, also difficult to render on swag)
- black/white and/or grayscale must be easy to render (logo must be
contrasted)
- easily scalable (a big-size logo must look as nice as a small-size logo)
BRIEF: Wiki loves monument is a photo contest that engages the Wikimedia community and the community at large to work at making pictures of listed monuments around the world. 2011 will be the first time that Wiki Loves Monuments happens in a coordinated fashion and on a wide scale, in Europe. More about the project here: (link to Commons page). In order to make this a success, several Wikimedia chapters and groups of community members are working on coordinating the organisation of the event. The logo will be used on promotional material (leaflets, swag etc.) for participants, on posters to advertise the event and on brochures to present the project to potential partner institutions. We need a cool logo that will represent both the "serious" spirit of the event (we're talking about "governement" listed monuments) but that will also engage community participants and make them proud of displaying it as much as possible. Although the event is coordinated this year for Europe, we hope to make this a recurring and world-wide event in the years to come.
*Logo competition runs as of now, last submissions must be entered before the 17th of April 23.59 UTC. After that date, only variations/adaptations of a same logo may be presented by designers to the voters. *Votes are ongoing, votes close on the 30th of April => not sure about ongoing votes? *Comments are welcome and even desired *Community vote on meta or Commons? (note: my preference would go to commons, but I don't really care) *Voting closes on the 27th of April, 23.59 UTC
How to participate: *Upload your logo on Commons in an svg format and tag it with the category [[Category:Wiki Loves Monuments logo contest]]. *Make sure the logo is under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA *List your logo on the designated page under the format: == Name of logo == *by [[User:XXXX]] ===Votes=== (votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit) ===Comments===
I think I've covered it all.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Delphine
@notafish
NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:27 PM, GoEthe.wiki goethe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Nice. I just have some doubts about ongoing votes. That would give early entries a handicap (as in golf) advantage.
OK, I'll take that out, was not sure iether anyway.
Delphine
2011/3/30 Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl wrote:
Hay is never going to look at you again! ;-)
Ouch.
No problem :) I agree the current logo is a bit boring. Maybe i'll participate in the contest as well :)
-- Hay
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org