Four? I count five :-) 1. own work 2. free license 3. september 4. id 5. email confirmed This can be explained in detail as recomandations, not rules: usefull to Wikipedia, high resolution, digital editing only if necessary, avoid people, specially not identifiable people without consent, general views as well as closer ones, no watermarks, no frames, not only good monuments but good shots, etc. In general, anything accepted on Commons should be acceptable for WLM, but some recomandations about the judging criteria may help. Vicenç From: lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:04:19 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photo format Hi Elisardo, thanks for your suggestion. Yes, we could do that. However, I would like it really a lot if we keep everything as simple as possible. Right now we have four simple rules - that means that adding one more rule is 25% more rules - is that worth it? Of course it speaks for itself that the jury will consider watermarked images as significantly worse quality. But why would we want to forbid people to upload them? Commons accepts them too, although they do reserve the right to remove the watermarks. Lodewijk 2011/7/20 Elisardo <elisardojm(a)gmail.com> Hi. Last day I noticed that we could add some rules to the contest, there are a content rules to apply to images on wikis that we can add to our rules. That rules say that free images should not be watermarked, distorted or have any credits in the image itself. We could add to this rules that the images should not have a frame, all this will make that uploaded images could be used directly in wiki articles and make them more "standarized". What do you say?. Elisardojm _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

If someone can take pictures in buildings where it is hard to get pictures (off the road, have to ask for permission in advance, need someone to open etc) I think that should be a +. Maybe that should be in the criteria ? Nina nina.wikipedia(a)gmail.com Den 20. juli 2011 kl. 16.47 skrev Lodewijk:

I thin if I have someone to drive a car and get permission it would be lovely to have pictures inside this church: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urnes_Stave_Church. Ordenary you cant take pictures inside so you have to ask for it. I have to stay the night in hotel also. In my wiki Kunsthistorie.com I have some pictures who are not free so you can take a look: http://kunsthistorie.com/fagwiki/Urnes_stavkirke i think Wikipedia needs pictures like this and not only nice pictures taken outside monuments. Nina nina.wikipedia(a)gmail.com Den 20. juli 2011 kl. 17.24 skrev Ilario Valdelli:

If there is any heritage institution in the jury he can recognize those valued photos knowing the monuments in place. But at European level this will be difficult. If the heritage institution is interested perhaps it could be a special prize for the most wanted monuments. E.g. photos missing in the local heritage website could be an incentive for their sponsonship. Vicenç From: nina.wikipedia(a)gmail.com Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:20:58 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photo format If someone can take pictures in buildings where it is hard to get pictures (off the road, have to ask for permission in advance, need someone to open etc) I think that should be a +. Maybe that should be in the criteria ? Nina nina.wikipedia(a)gmail.com Den 20. juli 2011 kl. 16.47 skrev Lodewijk:Ah, I overlooked the email confirmed, because I did not write that down in the European contest (assuming this already would be a requirement on national level, so every nominee would fulfill that already). The jury criteria are here indeed more relevant. By the way, I tried to summarize it all a bit on http://www.visuelya.de/wlmeu/contest/ and http://www.visuelya.de/wlmeu/jury/ . Best,Lodewijk 2011/7/20 Vicenç Riullop <vriullop(a)hotmail.com> Four? I count five :-) 1. own work 2. free license 3. september 4. id 5. email confirmed This can be explained in detail as recomandations, not rules: usefull to Wikipedia, high resolution, digital editing only if necessary, avoid people, specially not identifiable people without consent, general views as well as closer ones, no watermarks, no frames, not only good monuments but good shots, etc. In general, anything accepted on Commons should be acceptable for WLM, but some recomandations about the judging criteria may help. Vicenç From: lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:04:19 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photo format Hi Elisardo, thanks for your suggestion. Yes, we could do that. However, I would like it really a lot if we keep everything as simple as possible. Right now we have four simple rules - that means that adding one more rule is 25% more rules - is that worth it? Of course it speaks for itself that the jury will consider watermarked images as significantly worse quality. But why would we want to forbid people to upload them? Commons accepts them too, although they do reserve the right to remove the watermarks. Lodewijk 2011/7/20 Elisardo <elisardojm(a)gmail.com> Hi. Last day I noticed that we could add some rules to the contest, there are a content rules to apply to images on wikis that we can add to our rules. That rules say that free images should not be watermarked, distorted or have any credits in the image itself. We could add to this rules that the images should not have a frame, all this will make that uploaded images could be used directly in wiki articles and make them more "standarized". What do you say?. Elisardojm _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu