Langcom February 2017

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Suggesting eligible status for Wikipedia in Elfdalian
by Milos Rancic 04 Mar '17

04 Mar '17

The request [1] is for a North Germanic language [2] spoken in Sweden. There is no Ethnologue page about it, but there is SIL page [3], which indicates it's about a relatively new addition. It's spoken by ~2000 people, but Sweden is one of the richest countries in the world and I am sure this language has a chance to become a valid encyclopedic language. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Elfdal… [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfdalian [3] http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=ovd

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Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia
by Janak Bhatta 02 Mar '17

02 Mar '17

Hi Langcom team, The articles on Doteli Wikipedia has been growing at good rate now. Active number of editors also growing on. There is a good numbers of Doteli language experts and scholars resides in Kathmandu, Nepal and western part of Nepal. Some of them were touched with me. I will keep them in this thread, so that they can verify the content written in Doteli incubator project. The statistics shows the activity of Doteli Wikipedia. The wiki has exceeded more than *2K* articles in various topics. Please follow the link below. Main page of Doteli Incubator project <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/dty/Main_Page> The Doteli Wikipedia activity here: Doteli incubator stats <https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/dty&wik…> With Best Regards Janak Bhatta Kathmandu, Nepal +977-9851100522 On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Biplab Anand <biplabanand(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Biplab Anand <biplabanand(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia > To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Hi Amir and all, > AFAICT there is good numbers of Doteli language experts resides in > Kathmandu, Nepal and westen part of Nepal. I hope Janak will keep them in > this thread, so they can verify the content written in Doteli incubator > project. > > Biplab > > Hi Janak, > > Thanks for your email. > > I took a look at the statistics and at some pages. > > The activity statistics look quite good, although they are lower for this > month. The most important is to keep this incubator activity as high as > possible. > > The translatewiki statistics look good as well. > > The articles look OK as far as I can tell, but I don't actually know the > language, so I cannot verify it further. Is there anybody in the Langcom > who can find a Doteli expert? > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > Hi Janak, > > Thanks for your email. > > I took a look at the statistics and at some pages. > > The activity statistics look quite good, although they are lower for this > month. The most important is to keep this incubator activity as high as > possible. > > The translatewiki statistics look good as well. > > The articles look OK as far as I can tell, but I don't actually know the > language, so I cannot verify it further. Is there anybody in the Langcom > who can find a Doteli expert? > > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > 2016-10-13 8:08 GMT+03:00 Janak Bhatta <janak.bhatta.np(a)gmail.com>: > >> Dear Language Committee, >> >> We are glad to share you about the growth in contribution in Doteli >> Wikipedia Incubation recent days. >> >> The Incubator project of Doteli Wikipedia seems growing day by day and >> the community members are really doing great stuff in incubator projects >> and translate wiki to move this project out from incubator. >> >> The wiki has exceeded more than 1K articles in various topics. Please >> follow the link below. >> Main page of Doteli Incubator project >> <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/dty/Main_Page> >> >> The Doteli Wikipedia activity here: >> Doteli incubator stats >> <https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/dty&wik…> >> >> >> We have been communicating various organizations related to Doteli >> language for collaboration. They have shown interest to support the Wiki to >> make it a rich Wikipedia. >> >> Now, we have got a mentionable number of contributors, number of articles >> and considerably good interface translation. Therefor we request to publish >> Doteli Wikipedia out from the incubation. We assure to give qualitative >> and quantitative contribution in this wiki. >> >> With best regards >> Janak Bhatta >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > >

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Facebook page
by Milos Rancic 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

I've created Facebook page for LangCom: https://www.facebook.com/wmlangcom/ It could be used for various announcements ("New Wikimedia language!", "We are now working on this!" etc.) and discussions about things we are interested in. I'll give admin permissions to every LangCom member who wants it.

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Approval of Punjabi Wikisource
by Satdeep Gill 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

Hi everyone, I would like to propose the approval of Punjabi Wikisource. We have been working regularly on the project and have been facing some practical problems like using the OCR4Wikisource bot on Multilingual Wikisource. We request the creation of a separate project as we have met the criteria and this will help us in the smooth functioning of the project as well. Regards Satdeep Gill

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[] Khowar Wikipedia approval requested
by Satdeep Gill 23 Feb '17

23 Feb '17

Hi everyone, I got this email from a person affiliated with Forum of Language Initiatives and he confirms that the language used is Khowar. Regards Satdeep Gill Begin forwarded message: > From: "Fakhruddin" <fakhruddin(a)fli-online.org> > Date: 23 February 2017 at 3:19:57 PM IST > To: "'Satdeep Gill'" <satdeepgill(a)gmail.com> > Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis > > Dear Satdeep, > Thank you for your email. This is confirmed that the language has been used on the page is Khowar. > Regards > Fakhruddin > > From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2017 8:48 AM > To: mumtazchitral(a)gmail.com; bashiuk(a)yahoo.co.uk; faizibalim(a)yahoo.com; israruddin2000(a)yahoo.com; fakhruddin(a)fli-online.org > Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis > > Hi, > > Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar langauge. The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the language written in actually Khowar or something else ? > > Here is a list to all the pages in this project: > > https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/ > > Or just have a look at this random page: > > https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/الطاف_حسین_حالی > > Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to have a separate Wikipedia project. > > > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > Punjabi Wikimedians > Member, Affiliations Committee > Member, Language Committee

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Language committee meetings during the Wikimedia Conference
by Milos Rancic 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

Daniela, Wenke, it turns out that significant number of the Language committee members will be in Berlin at the time of Wikimedia Conference. So, we have two questions: 1) Two of the members are anyway in Germany. They do not need accommodation nor travel costs to be covered. What's the procedure to register them as participants? 2) We would like to have two slots -- on Saturday and Sunday -- in a room for ~10 persons. Last (and the only) time we had LangCom meetings alive (during Hackathon in Berlin in 2011, I think), we had sessions (with breaks) lasting for 4-5 hours. Would it be possible to arrange something like that?

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Fwd: [Maniphest] [Created] T158730: Automate WMF wiki creation
by Milos Rancic 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

I was talking with Tim Starling about the automation of the wiki creation, renaming (locking, removing). In theory, this should be the first and the most important step. I am in favor of giving the button to stewards, as LangCom should stay clearly a non-executive body in relation to the Wikimedia web projects. However, it shouldn't be a big deal if we have the button, as well. I would like to know what do you think, as well as what do stewards think (so, MF-Warburg, may you talk with stewards about that and give us their opinion). After we articulate our own opinions, this should be put on Meta for wider community discussion and decision. At this moment we don't have ETA for the application, but I suppose something between the next couple of months and the end of the year should be reasonable to expect, as Tim has taken that to do. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: tstarling <no-reply(a)phabricator.wikimedia.org> Date: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:51 AM Subject: [Maniphest] [Created] T158730: Automate WMF wiki creation To: millosh(a)gmail.com tstarling created this task. tstarling added projects: Services, Release-Engineering-Team, MediaWiki-Configuration. Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper. *TASK DESCRIPTION* Wiki creation is quite an involved process, documented on wikitech <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Add_a_wiki>. I think, at least for certain common cases, the task could be almost completely automated. For uncomplicated creation of new language editions under existing projects, with default configuration, the following tasks need to be done, none of which require complex human decision-making: - Reconfigure many services by pushing configuration changes to Gerrit, and deploy those commits - mediawiki-config: wikiversions, *.dblist - WikimediaMessages - DNS - RESTBase - Parsoid - Analytics refinery - cxserver - Labs dnsrecursor - Run addWiki.php. This script aims to automate all tasks which can be executed with the privileges of a MW maintenance script. - Run Wikidata's populateSitesTable.php. It should probably be incorporated into addWiki.php. - Run labsdb maintain-views - Update wikistats labs So at a minimum, you need to write and deploy commits to 8 different projects, run three scripts, and manually insert some rows into a DB in a labs instance. Despite there being no human decision making in this process, the documentation requires that you involve people from approximately four different teams (services, ops, wikidata, analytics). In my opinion, something is going wrong here in terms of development policy. The problem is getting progressively worse. In July 2004, I fully automated wiki creation and provided a web interface allowing people to create wikis. Now, it is unthinkable. Obviously services are the main culprits. Is it possible for in-house services to follow pybal's example, by polling a central HTTP configuration service for their wiki lists? As with pybal, the service could just be a collection of static files on a webserver. Even MediaWiki could profitably use such a central service for its dblists, with APC caching. So let's suppose we could get the procedure down to: 1. Commit/review/deploy the DNS update 2. Commit/review/deploy a configuration change to the new central config service. 3. Run addWiki.php Labs instances needing to know about the change would either poll the config service, or be notified by addWiki.php. WikimediaMessages could be updated in advance via translatewiki.net. (Thanks to Milos Rancic for raising this issue with me.) *TASK DETAIL* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158730 *EMAIL PREFERENCES* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ *To: *tstarling *Cc: *mobrovac, Reedy, demon, millosh, tstarling, Aklapper, Liudvikas, Luke081515, Eevans, Hardikj, zeljkofilipin, Jay8g, Krenair, Legoktm, greg

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- Wikinews Marathi marked eligible
by Satdeep Gill 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

Hi everyone, I have marked Wikinews Marathi[1] as eligible as Marathi Wikipedia already exists. 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Marathi Regards Satdeep Gill Punjabi Wikimedians <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> Member, Affiliations Committee <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> Member, Language Committee <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee>

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Proposal for eligible status for Eastern Bolivian Guarani Wikipedia
by Milos Rancic 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

I would mark this proposal [1] as eligible if there is no Guarani Wikipedia [2], so leaving here for the standard procedure. Guarani Wikipedia uses Paraguayan Guarani, so I suggest eligible status for this request. Eastern Bolivian Guarani language [3] is spoken by more than 50,000 of people mostly in Bolivia, but also in Argentina (where it's known as Western Argentine Guarani) [4]. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Easter… [2] https://gn.wikipedia.org/ [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Bolivian_Guaran%C3%AD_language [4] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/gui

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Re: [Langcom] Proposal for fast approval policy amendment
by MF-Warburg 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

Truly. Sadly(?), that means it is one of the projects that stayed most active after their approval by Langcom. Am 14.02.2017 6:57 nachm. schrieb "Asaf Bartov" <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>: On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:44 AM MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> wrote: However, when I think of chapters (or whatever) working together with a community to start a new Wikipedia, I always think of the Minangkabau Wikipedia, which started with some action (editathon maybe, I don't remember) from Wikimedia Indonesia, and which quickly got a highly active community, and was approved in record time (three months in Incubator, I think). (...but today has only 100 edits per month, and 4 active users.[1]) A. [1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryMIN.htm _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

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