Hi, I take this subject to let a message about Wikikids/Vikidia (further down in this message)
Le 03/02/2013 17:09, Laura Hale a écrit :
Had the chance to do it but things went pear shared. If I was including it in the curriculum, I would look specifically at curriculum standards and see how they can be specifically addressed in ways that are non-disruptive to Wikimedia projects. Sample lesson plans for how I would do this can be found at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Outreach_Oceania_Integrating_Wikimed... .
That sounds interesting and varied, we should have a closer look at it. However, haven't you feel that using Wikipedia, a quite sophisticated approach on each article, can be a limit for its use for younger pupils ?
Le 03/02/2013 21:22, Lila Pagola a écrit :
In Argentina we have an interesting resource: http://wikipediaenelaula.educ.ar/ (in Spanish) It was developed by the government, including our booklet "Wikipedia in the classroom"... and they added some suggestions of activities using Wikipedia at school: general approaches such as using articles for research, evaluation of information sources, collaborative work, wiki-culture, etc.
Hi, in France we have an equivalent : Wikipédia en classe http://www.wikimedia.fr/sites/default/files/userfiles/Wikip%C3%A9dia%20en%20classe-Wikim%C3%A9dia%20France.pdf, it mention Vikidia, and advice it for pupils up to 15 years old.
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
There has been a sister project proposal page for a long time on Meta : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids ...and I have update it.
fr.vikidia.org ans wikikids.nl are doing well, whereas es. and it. not so well. Vikidia in French is about 1 to 2 % of the importance of Wikipedia in French for activity, number of article and audience, which is not bad. I can tell you more about the spanish Vikidia, that has had good supporter but deserve new people to join in or even an organisation to take it in charge.
Wikitravel/Wikivoyage has recently be adopted as a sister project by the WMF. This could be possible for Vikidia/wikikids.
I would help translate from French if needed different pages that introduce to the project, such as http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Pour_les_enfants_ou_par_les_enfants_%3F (by or for children ?) and http://blog.wikimedia.fr/la-documentation-et-vikidia-1494 (the documentation and Vikidia - which was already translated in Spanish)
What do you think about it and would you be interested in it ?
Hi Mathias,
Hi, in France we have an equivalent : Wikipédia en classe http://www.wikimedia.fr/sites/default/files/userfiles/Wikip%C3%A9dia%20en%20classe-Wikim%C3%A9dia%20France.pdf, it mention Vikidia, and advice it for pupils up to 15 years old.
Good resource! Thanks for sharing.
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue editing after the workshop...
The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical possibilities of the projects.
Best,
Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit :
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue editing after the workshop...
We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are ready or willing to all round the year... :-)
So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be involved in the wiki. We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or expansion).
The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical possibilities of the projects.
That must be about the 1% rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 As well as to be amenable to active learning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a tool for it.
By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting es.vikidia ? Wikimédia France already does.
Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia.
Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia.
May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526
Salutations,
Hi all of you,
I just want to let you know (for those we are not reading Foundation's blog) that we published short report about this year cooperation between cs: WikiProject Protected areas and Charles University in Prague (CZ) on Foundation's blog, see http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/31/wikipedia- education-program-czech-republic/ As in the case of last year, also this year we were able produced high quality articles with nice images.
Regards,
Petr aka Chmee2
Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly.
And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor base, to make it easier for it to become one).
Regards, Sam.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit :
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue editing after the workshop...
We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are ready or willing to all round the year... :-)
So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be involved in the wiki. We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or expansion).
The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical possibilities of the projects.
That must be about the 1% rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 As well as to be amenable to active learning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a tool for it.
By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting es.vikidia ? Wikimédia France already does.
Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia.
Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia.
May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526
Salutations,
-- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays mathias.damour@laposte.net
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Le 12/02/2013 12:14, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly.
And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor base, to make it easier for it to become one).
Regards, Sam.
Thanks Samuel !
I would be glad to know what are the next steps you would think are the most opportune for that. Is it to gather more material, texts to write or translate to let understand better what the project is about ?
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit :
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue editing after the workshop...
We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are ready or willing to all round the year... :-)
So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be involved in the wiki. We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or expansion).
The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical possibilities of the projects.
That must be about the 1% rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 As well as to be amenable to active learning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a tool for it.
By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting es.vikidia ? Wikimédia France already does.
Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia.
Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia.
May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526
Salutations,
-- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays mathias.damour@laposte.net
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Mathias,
Two suggestions:
* Get some input from people involved in Vikidia-es and -it, wikikids.nl, and the Grundschulwiki. I don't think anyone else would want to use that name if the existing Dutch group didn't want to join.
* Describe a potential schedule for a migration to WMF hosting. See the history of the Wikivoyage page and the OmegaWiki page for examples.
SJ
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 12/02/2013 12:14, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly.
And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor base, to make it easier for it to become one).
Regards, Sam.
Thanks Samuel !
I would be glad to know what are the next steps you would think are the most opportune for that. Is it to gather more material, texts to write or translate to let understand better what the project is about ?
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit :
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue editing after the workshop...
We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are ready or willing to all round the year... :-)
So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be involved in the wiki. We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or expansion).
The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical possibilities of the projects.
That must be about the 1% rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 As well as to be amenable to active learning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a tool for it.
By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting es.vikidia ? Wikimédia France already does.
Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia.
Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia.
May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526
Salutations,
-- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays mathias.damour@laposte.net
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-- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 mathias.damour@laposte.net http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays
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Hey
So I am in touch with the Wikikids.nl folks through my Kennisnet activities and I pointed them towards this list in the past (so not sure if they are here or not).
I do know that they are exploring opportunities with regards to WMF hosting, or getting support from the Dutch chapter. Not sure which way they decided to go (I don't think they have made a choice yet)
Jan-Bart
On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Mathias,
Two suggestions:
- Get some input from people involved in Vikidia-es and -it,
wikikids.nl, and the Grundschulwiki. I don't think anyone else would want to use that name if the existing Dutch group didn't want to join.
- Describe a potential schedule for a migration to WMF hosting. See
the history of the Wikivoyage page and the OmegaWiki page for examples.
SJ
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 12/02/2013 12:14, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly.
And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor base, to make it easier for it to become one).
Regards, Sam.
Thanks Samuel !
I would be glad to know what are the next steps you would think are the most opportune for that. Is it to gather more material, texts to write or translate to let understand better what the project is about ?
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit :
Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. I've already sent a message about it more than a year ago. It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/
I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue editing after the workshop...
We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are ready or willing to all round the year... :-)
So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be involved in the wiki. We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or expansion).
The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical possibilities of the projects.
That must be about the 1% rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 As well as to be amenable to active learning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a tool for it.
By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting es.vikidia ? Wikimédia France already does.
Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia.
Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia.
May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526
Salutations,
-- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays mathias.damour@laposte.net
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
-- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
-- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 mathias.damour@laposte.net http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays
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Le 12/02/2013 21:19, Jan-Bart de Vreede a écrit :
Hey
So I am in touch with the Wikikids.nl folks through my Kennisnet activities and I pointed them towards this list in the past (so not sure if they are here or not).
I do know that they are exploring opportunities with regards to WMF hosting, or getting support from the Dutch chapter. Not sure which way they decided to go (I don't think they have made a choice yet)
I would say that if they decided not to join and not to be hosted bt the WMF, we could still work together and make interlanguage links (just as we do right now actually, it would definitely not be appropriate to make a fork in dutch if they don't ask for it...) We could do it with grundschulwiki http://grundschulwiki.zum.de/ (well, after getting in touch with the people in charge) because their way to administer the wiki is pretty far from ours (this wiki is intended for identified schools only if I know well). The biggest issue in my opinion would be how to deal with Simple English Wikipedia.
On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Mathias,
Two suggestions:
- Get some input from people involved in Vikidia-es and -it,
wikikids.nl, and the Grundschulwiki. I don't think anyone else would want to use that name if the existing Dutch group didn't want to join.
- Describe a potential schedule for a migration to WMF hosting. See
the history of the Wikivoyage page and the OmegaWiki page for examples.
Ok, thanks, It might be a way to get new supporters.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 12/02/2013 12:14, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly.
And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor base, to make it easier for it to become one).
Regards, Sam.
Thanks Samuel !
I would be glad to know what are the next steps you would think are the most opportune for that. Is it to gather more material, texts to write or translate to let understand better what the project is about ?