On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour
<mathias.damour(a)laposte.net> wrote:
Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit :
Vikidia
is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children.
I've
already sent a message about it more than a year ago.
It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in
Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch :
http://fr.vikidia.org/ ;
http://es.vikidia.org/ ;
http://it.vikidia.org/ I know
Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger
students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my
city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade
previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our
help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue
editing after the workshop...
We have some school working on
fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their
topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a
class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are
ready or willing to all round the year... :-)
So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be
involved in the wiki.
We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that
was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or
expansion).
The problem I have found, not only in this case,
so maybe it's a more
general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers.
In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for
experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main
issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia
embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be
a meaningful learning for their students.
Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to
encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical
possibilities of the projects.
That must be about the 1% rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29
As well as to be amenable to active learning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a
tool for it.
By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina,
Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting
es.vikidia ?
Wikimédia France already does.
Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and,
say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great
work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a
significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living
models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia.
Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think
about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia.
May you read (again ?) in spanish and french :
Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas)
http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526
Salutations,
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