Hi All
This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject with two main goals:
- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects (UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more shortly).
- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
- Organise work for contributors across all languages - Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page views for all contributions combined) - Measure success of the project.
I've been doing this on wiki here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the talk page or just add tools to the fields
Thanks
John
Hi John,
Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you. Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
Good luck, Pine On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject with two main goals:
- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects (UNESCO
has released content under an open license and will do more shortly).
- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
- Organise work for contributors across all languages
- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page views
for all contributions combined)
- Measure success of the project.
I've been doing this on wiki here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the talk page or just add tools to the fields
Thanks
John
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Thanks Pine
Hi Leila
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck, there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
All the best
John On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you. Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
Good luck, Pine On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject with two main goals:
- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects (UNESCO
has released content under an open license and will do more shortly).
- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
- Organise work for contributors across all languages
- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
views for all contributions combined)
- Measure success of the project.
I've been doing this on wiki here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the talk page or just add tools to the fields
Thanks
John
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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@Pine, thanks for your reply to John and the tip to ask Leila (not Lila!). ;) It's much appreciated.
@John, your metrics tools list [1] is helpful. I saw some tools there that were new(s) to me. BaGLAMa 2 [2], for example. Could that or something similar be used to collect pageviews stats en masse for categories of Commons files uploaded by students in WEPs? Here's one such category from the WEP Tec de Monterrey. [3] Manually mathing out the file totals to get a category total would be painful, imo. There must be an easier way. We have so many tools as a movement, though not all are well used or even well known. Thanks for asking this question on-list so that we all will benefit from the answer. Metrics and measurement matter. It's good that we're talking about how to do so -- smarter not harder.
Anna
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/index.html [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_photos_taken_for_Experie...
Anna Koval, M.Ed. Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 Skype: annakoval.wiki akoval@wikimedia.org education.wikimedia.org
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On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, john cummings mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pine
Hi Leila
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck, there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
All the best
John On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you. Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
Good luck, Pine On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject with two main goals:
- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects
(UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more shortly).
- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
- Organise work for contributors across all languages
- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
views for all contributions combined)
- Measure success of the project.
I've been doing this on wiki here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the talk page or just add tools to the fields
Thanks
John
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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Hi Anna
Thanks, if you have any suggestions for additional tools to provide for contributors or any metrics you think I should use for reporting please do add them to the list.
Cheers
John
On 2 October 2015 at 21:04, Anna Koval akoval@wikimedia.org wrote:
@Pine, thanks for your reply to John and the tip to ask Leila (not Lila!). ;) It's much appreciated.
@John, your metrics tools list [1] is helpful. I saw some tools there that were new(s) to me. BaGLAMa 2 [2], for example. Could that or something similar be used to collect pageviews stats en masse for categories of Commons files uploaded by students in WEPs? Here's one such category from the WEP Tec de Monterrey. [3] Manually mathing out the file totals to get a category total would be painful, imo. There must be an easier way. We have so many tools as a movement, though not all are well used or even well known. Thanks for asking this question on-list so that we all will benefit from the answer. Metrics and measurement matter. It's good that we're talking about how to do so -- smarter not harder.
Anna
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/index.html [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_photos_taken_for_Experie...
Anna Koval, M.Ed. Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 Skype: annakoval.wiki akoval@wikimedia.org education.wikimedia.org
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On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, john cummings mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pine
Hi Leila
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck, there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
All the best
John On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you. Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
Good luck, Pine On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject with two main goals:
- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects
(UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more shortly).
- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
- Organise work for contributors across all languages
- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
views for all contributions combined)
- Measure success of the project.
I've been doing this on wiki here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the talk page or just add tools to the fields
Thanks
John
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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Hi John,
You might also try contacting the GLAM, Commons, Multimedia, and/or Labs mailing lists to ask for suggestions, and/or put out a request in the GLAM newsletter.
Pine On Oct 4, 2015 2:54 AM, "john cummings" mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Anna
Thanks, if you have any suggestions for additional tools to provide for contributors or any metrics you think I should use for reporting please do add them to the list.
Cheers
John
On 2 October 2015 at 21:04, Anna Koval akoval@wikimedia.org wrote:
@Pine, thanks for your reply to John and the tip to ask Leila (not Lila!). ;) It's much appreciated.
@John, your metrics tools list [1] is helpful. I saw some tools there that were new(s) to me. BaGLAMa 2 [2], for example. Could that or something similar be used to collect pageviews stats en masse for categories of Commons files uploaded by students in WEPs? Here's one such category from the WEP Tec de Monterrey. [3] Manually mathing out the file totals to get a category total would be painful, imo. There must be an easier way. We have so many tools as a movement, though not all are well used or even well known. Thanks for asking this question on-list so that we all will benefit from the answer. Metrics and measurement matter. It's good that we're talking about how to do so -- smarter not harder.
Anna
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/index.html [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_photos_taken_for_Experie...
Anna Koval, M.Ed. Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 x 6729 Skype: annakoval.wiki akoval@wikimedia.org education.wikimedia.org
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On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, john cummings mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pine
Hi Leila
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck, there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
All the best
John On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you. Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
Good luck, Pine On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" mrjohncummings@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject with two main goals:
- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects
(UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more shortly).
- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
- Organise work for contributors across all languages
- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
views for all contributions combined)
- Measure success of the project.
I've been doing this on wiki here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the talk page or just add tools to the fields
Thanks
John
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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