Dear Juliana, in my project each language has its own worktable where the schoolchildren translate the parts. When the translation is over and the checker has checked the translation (the checker makes corrections, etc.), schoolchildren transfer the content from the worktable to the article. And I grade the bytes based on the final version. I agree with Craig that it is easy to inflate the bytecount by inserting templates. I don't face such problem in my project though I don't see any problem here cause creating templates or filling infoboxes is also editing and it is also should be taking into account. An article isn't a wiki article without such templates and I think that we should evaluate each edit of students in order they could feel that everything they do is evaluated.
Lilit
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Juliana Bastos Marques < domusaurea@gmail.com> wrote:
Lilit, thanks for sharing. My Armenian is not very fluent, but it looks a very interesting idea!
I work with undergraduate History students. This is the third time I'm grading Wikipedia articles, and I want them to use the subjects, discussions and bibliography we have in class, together with translations. I've been selecting some articles which are missing in the Portuguese Wikipedia about the Hellenistic world. So far, I've been collecting new articles on this table: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1ria:Domusaurea/O_Mundo_Helen%C3%ADsti....
Do you grade the number of bytes based on total edits or on the final version?
Juliana.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Lilit Tarkhanyan < lilit.tarkhanyan@wikimedia.am> wrote:
Hello Juliana I have a project for high-schools which is called "Translator's corner". Schoolchildren translate from other languages one part of different articles. It's like a competition who will translate more. So there I count the translations via bytes and it stimulates them. They do everything in order their bytes chould grow higher. Here is the link of my projecthttps://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%8E%D5%AB%D6%84%D5%AB%D5%BA%D5%A5%D5%A4%D5%AB%D5%A1:%D5%86%D5%A1%D5%AD%D5%A1%D5%A3%D5%AB%D5%AE:%D4%B9%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A3%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B9%D5%AB_%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%AF%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6#.D4.B9.D5.A1.D6.80.D5.A3.D5.B4.D5.A1.D5.B6.D5.AB.D5.B9.D5.B6.D5.A5.D6.80.D5.AB_.D5.B4.D5.AB.D5.A1.D5.BE.D5.B8.D6.80.D5.B6.D5.A5.D6.80but it's in Armenian. You can see the bytes of the schoolchildren. P.S. Will you please tell me a bit more of your project? Sorry if I have missed something. I'm new in this mailing list, may be you have already told.
Lilit
Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board member Education program leader Aygestan 1/30 tel. +374 55 534 011 +374 10 575397
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Juliana Bastos Marques < domusaurea@gmail.com> wrote:
*NOT a CFP!* ;)
Hello all!
I have been thinking about using the criterion of a minimum number of bytes to evaluate the students' edits for my next course - together with content, of course. This came up because I noticed some students were editing as little as possible, and this time I want the whole group to start new articles from scratch.
Has anyone used this approach? Pros/cons? What would you consider a reasonable number for the minimum of bytes in the final article?
Juliana.
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