The first and most obvious difference to me is the hardware, software, and the know-how required to set up another wiki, which most professors unlikely have. I, too, am interested in learning benefits of this strategy.
Rob
-----Original Message----- From: domusaurea Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:07 PM To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Quantitative Metric and Article Quality
How would you evaluate the difference between a separate wiki and the sandboxes?
Juliana
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Em 03/10/2012, às 12:57, "Martin Walker" walkerma@potsdam.edu escreveu:
A colleague of mine from our geology department has run article improvement projects for US undergraduates, and he found it very beneficial to have the main editing work done on a separate geology wiki (running Mediawiki) on a college server. Pictures were still uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (and therefore could be read in the college wiki). He was easily able to use the history feature to track students' contributions. Once the work was completed, the professor himself did the edit, presumably after checking for outside edits done while the project was ongoing. Students were able to improve Wikipedia, and see their real-world impact (a very poor article is now good and gets 70,000 hits a year).
For what you're proposing, I think a separate wiki like this would be essential. That way the chaos is contained and the Wikipedia biologists aren't going nuts; also, you can assess the students' contributions more easily. Once the work is complete, improved articles can be integrated into the main Wikipedia and everyone benefits.
Martin
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On 10/2/2012 10:51 AM, Dimce Grozdanoski wrote:
Hi folks,
I want to open discussion and hear some practical ideas or real stories about projects with large scale editing participation, or how to distribute assessment to the editors/students who are geographically distributed throughout the country.
For example, let's say that we want to recruit 10000 students grouped in class groups in particular schools to work on biology topics. Each school must follow the teaching plan / time-line according to the adopted methodology, i.e. they start with general biological terms then with kingdoms, ecosystems, interactions of living bing in ecosystem, evolution, and so on ... And the teachers give one or two assessment per student of biology in particular class in particular school, to write new or improve already written article in wikipedia. How to menage this process? How to measure student work? The goals are to create maximal number of articles with good quality. How to deal with projects of this kind in limited time if you have time window of 6 months to start and finish the project.
Any idea,
Dimce Grozdanoski Wikimedia Macedonia
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