Re: [Wikimedia Education] comments on Annual Plan

P.S. Report is at http://people.aifb.kit.edu/ffl//wikiwho/fp715-floeck.pdf and further docs at http://f-squared.org/wikiwho/ On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:25 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Aaron and Pine, > > Please see > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2015-May/031684.html > > I was thrilled to see Maribel Acosta's WikiWho check-in for > Mediawiki-Utilities today, and I hope you are, too: > https://github.com/maribelacosta/wikiwho/pull/3 > > I intend to raise money independently so that someone such as Maribel > or perhaps one of her colleagues recommended by Fabian Flöck can work > on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accuracy_review > > Once that is complete, the project calls for human fact checkers to > work on the suggested passages for proofreading and fact checking > review. I intend to raise money for them, too, but I understand that > the WMF can't have any part of hiring them to preserve the safe harbor > DMCA provisions. Earlier in the year, I administered qualifying > examinations to hundreds of fact checker candidates, and have > transferred the results of those examinations to Lila and Dario, in > case I get run over by a bus, and also so that they can independently > confirm the quality of the examination process, questions, and > responses which they should have. > > Aaron, can you please confirm that Lila and Dario have those and don't > need anything more from me to read them? I would love to do this > myself, but I will be very busy through the end of the year. > > Best regards, > James > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Aaron Halfaker > <aaron.halfaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi James, >> >> I've been away traveling for the last couple of weeks. Regretfully, I >> don't >> know what you are talking about. I see that a link was censored from a >> previous email in the thread. >> >> What exactly are you hoping for? That we'll dedicate some researcher >> time >> to a specific project? Maybe you're just looking for feedback. I see >> you >> mention hiring people -- but for what purpose? >> >> -Aaron >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:11 PM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> P.S. I mean, the WMF can't hire them but the WEF can, and I hope they >>> do >>> soon to complement the accuracy metric without expenditure. >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Aaron, >>>> >>>> Could you please confirm that Lila and Dario are in receipt of the >>>> fact-checker candidate list and associated materials? Please remember >>>> that >>>> the WEF can't hire them but the WikiEd Foundation has not yet >>>> achieved >>>> IdeaLab technology, so your assistance may still be required. Thank >>>> you for >>>> your patience. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> James Salsman >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2015 >>>> Subject: comments on Annual Plan >>>> To: Lila Tretikov <lila(a)wikimedia.org> >>>> Cc: Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Dario and Lila, >>>> >>>> Are you both able to see the human fact checker and proofreader >>>> candidates in >>>> [censored] ? >>>> >>>> Please keep the contents of that file confidential, as I promised I >>>> would >>>> not share it with commercial interests. >>>> >>>> Please let me know your thoughts on the next best steps. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:05 PM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Lila, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you so much. I will help Dario as much as I can. You are both >>>>> so >>>>> great. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Lila Tretikov <lila(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure we can "take this away" better than another volunteer, but >>>>>> we >>>>>> do plan to focus on quality measurements. I am CCing Dario who is >>>>>> in charge >>>>>> of Analytics Research to look into the specifics of what's involved >>>>>> here and >>>>>> how it may link to the general quality metrics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lila >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:54 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Lila, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please take this away from me. I do not want to be in a position >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> my influence over it can unduly enrich my new client by degrading >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quality of the encyclopedia. Please let me know your decision. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:52 AM >>>>>>> Subject: comments on Annual Plan >>>>>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16#En… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will key quality metrics for reading include accuracy of articles >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the Simple English Wikipedia? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To that end, will the Wikimedia Foundation please take over this >>>>>>> project in full as stated here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2015-May/031684.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a new contract through the end of the year and will be >>>>>>> unable >>>>>>> to devote the time I had planned. Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> James Salsman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>