Hi All,
Sorry for the late answer.
@Jan-Bart:
Hello, and thank you for your intervention. Yes, Wikimini and Wikikids.nl are very similar projects, both in their background and the way they evolved. I remember that I translated your explanation page in French, but this was a while ago: http://wikikids.wiki.kennisnet.nl/Wikikids:Pr%C3%A9sentation_en_fran%C3%A7ai...)
@Will:
No page talk ?
Yes, we use talk pages (with threaded comments), but as you know their content is publicly viewable by anyone. This is what I meant when I said "there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini". I think this restriction is very important on such a wiki, even if it has some disadvantages.
@Samuel and @Mathias:
(...) Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the
differences between their goals and policies?
Hello Samuel and Mathias. Yes, there have been a few discussions in the past. The page reported by Mathias was a discussion I started on their wiki in 2010. I think it was the last one. I previously (in 2009) started a dedicated forum to talk about potential collaborations (and even rapprochements) between the projects. The forum is not live anymore, but if I recall correctly, it only contained 4 or 5 messages. At this time, Mathias proposed to import the content and users of Wikimini into Vikidia and to redirect our domain (wikimini.org) to their own, while letting users chose between the two "interfaces". On our side, I have to admit that we did not have any concrete idea (better or not) to offer at this time. I don't recall any other discussions in between, but maybe I'm wrong.
@Everton:
Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki
talk page sucks!
Olá Everton (*<-- você recebeu meu email?*). You're right. Talk pages are not very handy to use. We solved this on Wikimini with a great extension called LiquidThreads http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads(used on some Wikimedia projects). We're currently using an older version, which is lightweight and very easy to use. I have to say that it is fantastic. However notifications don't work 100%, and this is sort of a problem.
Have a great week!
Laurent
2013/4/21 Everton Zanella Alvarenga tom@wikimedia.org
Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki talk page sucks!
Tom
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 19/04/2013 12:57, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Thank you, Laurent (and Jan-Bart) - it's lovely to hear these updates. Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the differences between their goals and policies?
Warmly, SJ
Yes, there is this discussion on that issue (in French, 2010) http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia I had not read it again recently, but I think it has some substantial content on that question. By the way, the discussions we had in Milan brought several points to
work
on (among which a summary in English of this discussion and if they were
new
elements since it) I will keep you informed !
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevreede@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey,
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years (full disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet
Foundation
which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get about 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel that the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn. While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at least of equal (if not higher) importance.
The english page on the project is here:
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
(I am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
Jan-Bart
On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Laurent Jauquier <
laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch>
wrote:
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult
had
tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a
case
on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal
on
the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component
of
Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many
other
community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat
systems,
message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's
Encyclopedia
has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency.
I
wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==>
http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
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