Hello Everyone,
Well, it took us four emails on this list in order to reach the moment where someone started being negative in tone.
The reason we started this list was to exchange ideas in a positive atmosphere. There are incredible examples (best practices) on how to use Wikimedia content en projects in an educational setting. We can share these and point out opportunities to one another. One of the people I talked to when discussing this list stated that for him it was important that the tone of the list be positive, but above all: constructive.
Therefore this list is not a place to:
1) Antagonize one another or show a lack of respect to individuals
2) Continue crusades which are already being fought on other platforms (however just they may be)
3) Be close-minded
If people can't abide by these guidelines, please feel free to unsubscribe and "take it elsewhere". If you have suggestions for other guidelines to make this a welcoming place, feel free to mail me.
In support of Frank's suggestion I think it would be great to get together in a larger setting of some kind at wikimania. When looking at
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Papers (PS: your deadline for adding proposals is the 30th of april)
I see a lot of educational talks. Every year we have more and more of these at Wikimania, and every year we see more cool cases and theory. Can we come up with suggestions for doing something special at Wikimania this year where we can celebrate this and have an informal get together?
Jan-Bart
On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:54 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> Great idea. It will not be ready for Wikimania in Haifa, this year,
> but I just added to my list of case studies: "The crusaders against
> education in the Brazilian Wikipedia." Right now it is an unfinished
> case because the crusade is still raging at full throttle in the
> Brazilian Wikipedia, thanks to... YOU. That's right, YOU. It is all
> happening under your very noses, using the resources that the
> Wikimedia Foundation makes available to the gang that runs the
> Brazilian Wikipedia. A word of warning, also, to all the donors to
> the Wikimedia Foundation whose money is unwittingly being used to
> support that big sham called Portuguese Wikipedia. Sounds dramatic,
> exaggerated, overblown? I wouldn't believe it myself if I were not
> there, right on top of the list of those blocked to infinite for
> daring, for trying such foolish endeavor. My worst sin, I'm very
> sorry to say: being a Portuguese university professor trying to run a
> successful higher education project in a Wikipedia dominated by
> Brazilian highschoolers. In the mean time, have fun in Haifa, patting
> each other on the back for a job well done.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Virgilio A. P. Machado
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Education mailing list
> Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Can the tag for this list be changed from [Education] to something like
[WikiEducation]?
--
Piotr Konieczny
"To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on
one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski
With all due respect, if you believe something is an issue and that people
can help rectify it, it's probably not the best idea to single them out for
the blame when they have had no part in shaping the situation. If you
clarified what exactly the issue is with regard to the project in question,
people might actually be able to investigate your complaint and see what can
be done.
Sonia
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado <vam(a)fct.unl.pt>wrote:
> Great idea. It will not be ready for Wikimania in Haifa, this year,
> but I just added to my list of case studies: "The crusaders against
> education in the Brazilian Wikipedia." Right now it is an unfinished
> case because the crusade is still raging at full throttle in the
> Brazilian Wikipedia, thanks to... YOU. That's right, YOU. It is all
> happening under your very noses, using the resources that the
> Wikimedia Foundation makes available to the gang that runs the
> Brazilian Wikipedia. A word of warning, also, to all the donors to
> the Wikimedia Foundation whose money is unwittingly being used to
> support that big sham called Portuguese Wikipedia. Sounds dramatic,
> exaggerated, overblown? I wouldn't believe it myself if I were not
> there, right on top of the list of those blocked to infinite for
> daring, for trying such foolish endeavor. My worst sin, I'm very
> sorry to say: being a Portuguese university professor trying to run a
> successful higher education project in a Wikipedia dominated by
> Brazilian highschoolers. In the mean time, have fun in Haifa, patting
> each other on the back for a job well done.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Virgilio A. P. Machado
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Education mailing list
> Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
>
Hi All,
We would like to take this opportunity to announce the new Wikimedia Education list. During the past Wikimania conferences we seen incredible examples of the educational use within Wikimedia projects. During the recent chapter conference in Berlin we saw some more. These are often not related to a specific project and often have subject matter which involves a different audience than the other general mailing lists. Thats why we decided to start a new mailing list which will hopefully foster creative discussion on the topic at hand.
So what would we like to discuss on this list:
* Educational use of Wikimedia content or projects
* Best practices
* Educational Licensing
* Educational Outreach
* Other Open Educational Resource Projects
* Anything else that is education related :)
Everyone is welcome to post to the list. You can subscribe to the list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education The list will be moderated by Cormaggio, Jan-Bart and Louriepieterse.
Hope to see you there!
Cormaggio, Jan-Bart and Lourie
PS: Small disclaimer: although Jan-Bart is a member of the Board of Trustees, this is not an offical WMF initiative, but a community initiative.
Hi All,
We would like to take this opportunity to announce the new Wikimedia Education list. During the past Wikimania conferences we seen incredible examples of the educational use within Wikimedia projects. During the recent chapter conference in Berlin we saw some more. These are often not related to a specific project and often have subject matter which involves a different audience than the other general mailing lists. Thats why we decided to start a new mailing list which will hopefully foster creative discussion on the topic at hand.
So what would we like to discuss on this list:
* Educational use of Wikimedia content or projects
* Best practices
* Educational Licensing
* Educational Outreach
* Other Open Educational Resource Projects
* Anything else that is education related :)
Everyone is welcome to post to the list. You can subscribe to the list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education The list will be moderated by Cormaggio, Jan-Bart and Louriepieterse.
Hope to see you there!
Cormaggio, Jan-Bart and Lourie
PS: Small disclaimer: although Jan-Bart is a member of the Board of Trustees, this is not an offical WMF initiative, but a community initiative.