On Sep 18, 2007, at 1:08 AM, Ian Tresman wrote:
The fact that this obscure 'zine's mini-series is specifically about somebody who earned his coin complaining that his totally unscientific ideas weren't treated like, well, (giggle) science, well.... that just adds to the irony.
You wrote that Pensée IVR was self-published. It was no more self published than any other student newspaper,
Self published. Not a reliable source.
or even local newspaper,
My local newspaper has hundred of editors in its history, and has existed for more than, oh a few years (over 100, FWIW).
The zine article series in question did not.
and we include hundred on Wikipedia.
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You wrote that it was a college fan'zine. It wasn't, it included critical articles from those opposed to Velikovsky. Even if it was a fanzine, we have dozens and dozens of them included in Wikipedia.
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And you called Velikovsky a kook.
This would be an 'er, duh'. Failing the basics of elementary physics courses, and writing books on "why my personal belief in ancient mythos should trump all of human knowledge of a topic, because my personal mythos is kool"?
Uhm. Yeaaah... A+ on creative writing, F- on ontology.
I couldn't tell whether this was a personal opinion or unattributed quote, but if we excluded people based on whether editors considered someone so, we'd loose 10% of entries.
If we lost 10% of our articles based on eliminating bad science, horrible research, and total ignorance, ya know, I can't say I'd be sad. Or feel we lost all that much.
Ignorant ranting about topics that people *do not understand* isn't exactly in short supply.
You do appear to be discriminated against this particular magazine.
Nah, I'm pretty much anti-moron everywhere. This "debate" just seems to be a fun example.
-Bop