By now the "Standard Romani" is a bit in a ideal phase, with more centers of developement worlwide. Already there are some differences in the way I have written and the way the other Romani user has written, but this does not impede the mutual understanding. Personally I don't have in my mind a wiki confined only to some specific patterns of the Romani language picked from those disponible worldwide. Speakers of every dialect would be welcomed to contribute to rom.wiki, and if there is standing power to make wikis in specific dialects, let them run. But for the beginning there is standing power for a general Romani Wikipedia.
Also, the evolution of the standardized form, is not based only on Vlax Romani. As I wrote in the English article abot the Romani language, Romani taught in schools from Romania has mostly the pronunciation and grammar style of the older non-Vlax dialects, considered closer to the original language. The language used till now for the Romani Wikipedia is not quite Vlax, it does not stand for a Vlax Wikipedia.
Desiphral
On 3/25/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
The comparison to Kurdish isn't exactly valid -- the Kurdish Wikipedia doesn't use a single "standard form", but rather has separate "sections" for each dialect, beccause quite simply there is no Standard Kuridsh.
Mark
On 25/03/06, Alin Dosoftei desiphral@gmail.com wrote:
Have a look at the debate for the test Romani Wikipedia, at my last
comment:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Vlax_Romany/Discus...
My point is that if it is will to make Wikipedias in other dialects,
it's
OK, but I don't think this is an impediment to have one for the standard form.
On 3/25/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, although there is a "standard romani", it doesn't totally bridge all Romani languages as it intends (it is apparently based mostly on Kalderash), and is not intelligible to diverse varieties such as Ursari, Sinte, or Baltic.
I don't think it's right for any single language to claim to be "*the* Romani language", I think rom.wp should be a portal.
mark
On 25/03/06, Alin Dosoftei desiphral@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you!
But the proposed code name is rom. not rmy. which is only for the
Vlax
Romani dialect. Is it because I forgot to change it at the Meta page
for
requests? Vlax was the first proposal but then the test changed to
Standard
Romani and I made the changes from rmy to rom wherever I found the
older
code.
Also in English it is favoured the spelling Romani instead of
Romany,
because this is the way the other Indo-Aryan languages are spelled:
Hindi,
Bengali, Marathi, Kashmiri etc. The Romani dialects are spelled also
like
this: Drindari, Erli, Jambashi etc. and even the dialects of other
languages
spoken by Roma (with only Romani vocabulary) like Pogadi. *Romany*
look
awkward together with other Indo-Aryan languages.
On 3/25/06, Wikipedia Romania (Ronline) rowikipedia@gmail.com
wrote:
Just a question - none of the Wikipedias so far seem to have a
localised
interface. The Romany Wikipedia (code RMY) has a nearly
fully-translated
localisation file at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LanguageRom.php
(This file still contains some Romanian-language fragments)
Once this file is fully translated, how is it possible to update
the
interface? Neither me nor the native Romani user, Desiphral, know how to use
the
CVS
system.
Thanks,
Ronline
2006/3/25, Servien Ilaino servien@gmail.com:
YEEEAAAH!! Finaly!! :D
Serv
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