Andre Engels wrote:
2006/7/9, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com:
I apologize for my message; I should have kept this internal tot the Dutch Wikipedia, since, as you write, it does not seem to be part of general policy to remove local translations. Rather, this was something of a single-person action. I am now therefore starting a procedure to de-admin this specific person on nl:.
That's a bit harsh. Wouldn't it be easier to inform and educate them about their mistake and co-ordinate future translation efforts?
How do you educate someone who does not want to be educated? He is of the opinion that he has done nothing wrong, GerardM agrees with him. A number of other Dutch Wikipedians who have spoken out about this issue have not.
You are right when you say I may have been too rash in starting the procedure; however I feel fully in my right to continue it. All it would have taken for me to stop the procedure was for him to say "Sorry, it would have been better to first discuss it. I will try to do better from now on." His only reaction to that is, "I have done nothing to be ashamed of."
Hoi, It would have been nice if there was ONE reason given why this is not a good idea. The only arguments that have been given are hostile; who are you to do such a thing. It has been argued that the action deleted messages that are similar in content, because with them being removed, this will allow for an update when the message is changed. It has been argued that all project specific messages are kept....
Andre asked why this process was started, he forgets to mention that he is not even an admin so he is not even part of those who maintain the localisation on the nl.wikipedia. The Dutch wikipedia has become increasingly intolerant; the number of de-sysop procedures have increased dramatically. I think it is appalling that people first start to threaten with de-sysop and expect some grovelling in order to take away this threat. Nothing was done to be ashamed of. There are good arguments why it has been done, the deletions WERE reverted and it is still not enough to satisfy this lust for blood.
I do not recognise myself in the Dutch Wikipedia I am sad to say.
Thanks, GerardM