I don't see how it's interesting.
If you take a look at the vote, and exclude all non-Cantonese speakers (at least, as far as I am aware):
Support: Jasonzhuocn Bourquie Connie Eternal Jogloran Felix Wan Enochlau CantoneseWiki Xingmu Ffootballchu Seasurfer (Maybe -- Seasurfer is a Malaysian Chinese; in most of Malaysia, Chinese people can speak Cantonese, including Kuala Lumpur, but there's the notable exception of Penang where the main language is Hokkien, so it could be either way and we'd have to ask)
Oppose: Sl Zektonic Crosstimer Jeromy~Yuyu Simon Shek
Now, you may claim the vote was rigged all you want.
But if it _was_ rigged, it was actually _in favour_ of Cantonese speakers, given that I personally informed everyone who had a Cantonese babel template and was accepting Wikipedia e-mails. AND, _all_ of the Cantonese speakers who voted "oppose", with the exception of Simon Shek, were informed by me of the vote via e-mail.
Now, even if you add the 7 users from the meetup (not counting Simon Shek, who voted as well) as "oppose" votes, you end up with equal numbers in favour and opposed.
Having said that, I'm still a bit surprised that Alex would change her mind when it seemed before like she was really interested in a Cantonese Wikipedia...
And it also seems suspect to me that while the majority of Cantonese speakers who VOTED were in favour, those at the meetup were "unanimous" in their opposition.
You may think that this has to do with the alleged vote rigging, however all that consisted of was me e-mailing Cantonese speakers to tell them about the vote. The message said, quite basically, that there was a vote, and that their input was requested. I didn't include my views, an endorsement of either side, etc.
Mark
On 25/09/05, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Walter van Kalken wrote:
Yet here we are, with non-Cantonese folks spearheading the effort, and a Cantonese-based meetup saying no, they don't want one.
And all the voting Cantonese speakers were there? Why are your Cantonese speakers who met there more valuable than the many supporters? You act like the group that met has Veto rights on the issue.
No, but it sure is interesting, isn't it?
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