The Arbcom cannot and should not exclude _advocates_, but it would
have good grounds to exclude _advocacy_, because that is hardly if
ever NPOV. If someone spends a large part of their Wikipedia time in
an area where after repeated attempts they do not seem to be willing
and able to write NPOV, I think arbitration could step in to forbid
them from editing on that subject.
However, such should be judged from the extent to which their POV
hinders their NPOV editing, not from the nature of the POV they are
editing from. Although it can hardly be avoided that we put the bar
higher for people with a more extreme and uncommon POV, this to me
means that we should encourage those who manage to pass that higher
bar and compliment them. I would be happy to see a neonazi write about
the major groups and leaders in their field.
Andre Engels
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:01:01 -0700, Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote:
The Arbcom cannot exclude an advocate of
totalitarianism or terrorism under
our current policies, indeed, we cannot even accept a case on that basis
alone. The user must go beyond advocacy and violate NPOV, make personal
attacks, delete encyclopedic material, attempt to dominate a block of
articles with aggressive POV editing, etc. before we can accept a case or
even issue a mild rebuke. A polite thoughtful neo-nazi is welcome to edit
under our current policies.
The Arbcom has a few critics who think we do otherwise, but while there is
prejudice against these folks once they fall into our clutches we do more or
less follow expressed Wikipedia policy.
Fred
From: "Tony Sidaway"
<minorityreport(a)bluebottle.com>
Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:37:50 -0000 (GMT)
To: <wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] NSM88, deletion of user page image, personal
attacks
Fred Bauder said:
In my
opinion we should change that policy and permit exclusion of open
advocates of totalitarian ideologies and terrorism.
Why? ArbCom can already exclude anybody who misbehaves. The policy as
you're described it is also subject to interpretation. The words
"totalitarian" and "terrorism" are both very slippery.
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