Peter, honestly what am I supposed to do when there are messages on the ml that are against me, often ignoring important things (ie, that I already apologised)?
I am willing to drop this here and now but honestly it doesn't seem like everybody else is, though I appreciate those who are.
--node
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:48:34 +0200, Peter Gervai grin@tolna.net wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:08:14AM -0700, Mark Williamson wrote:
If you're objecting to articles, yes. What you do is replace the copyrighted text with a copyvio notice.
Yes. I suspected that the text of each and every single one of the articles I replaced was copyvio (with the exception of a couple I did by mistake which had no content at all).
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node, do you require each and every wikipedian (outside yourself) to tell you that your interpretation is different from all of the other people's and most of us think you did something very wrong and rude, you should apologise and you should stop trying to convince others that you're right, they're all wrong and keep on debating? The more you debate the more I feel like banning wouldn't be that bad idea. You ruin the remains of your good reputation (let us suppose there's still some).
I believe TokiPona wikipedia was not a bright idea (and this was phrased euphemistically), I believe we have two zillion conlangs are "better" than tokipona, I believe that tokipona being copyrighted and not *generally* released under a free licence is a very good reason to purge its wikipedia **IMMEDIATELY**. (Unless Sonja changes the licence very very very fast.)
It is not you, however, to decide that, and to go and purge it on your behalf. It is not any of us. This is a community project. You may feel that it's wrong to have tokipona (klingon, whatever), and object it POLITELY the several ways we use (and others kindly already listed). It's not that hard to gain attention without killing anyone.
You neglected that, you went on and started killing it. You got your feedback: this is unacceptable. Please don't go on arguing why do you think it is, you may already have noticed that "we" don't intend to see it like you do.
People already accepted the possibility that you're an intelligent person, realised that you did it wrong, learned from it, next time you will do it right and let it rest and move on. Honour them (being unhostile) by accepting that and end this damn thread, stop the noise in the list and move on.
(And ignore those not very wise people further accusing you, or repeating things already said and answered. They're noise, too. I believe right now I am noise, too, as these things were probably already said. I shut up. I offer this possibility to the other members of this thread, too.)
Thank you. Peter Wikipedian
ps: I am not against "get change tokipona license or get rid of it" thread, I am against "node did this and that so we should do this and that" thread. That's already walking in circles. If he moves on, let's move on. If he debates further, ban him and move on. *sigh* _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l