Hi,
I noticed some inconsistencies between http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hindi and http://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hindi regarding capitalization of language names.
At least for * Belorussian * Basque * Catalan * Estonian * Hungarian * Icelandic * Indonesian * Latvian * Lithuanian * Malay * Moksha * Norwegian * Occitan * Portuguese * Romanian * Russian * Sorbian * Tatar * Turkish * Ukrainian * Walloon * Welsh
So the generic question is "which languages captialize their language and ethnic pronouns?"
Thanks, Yann
Hi
I creayed this page on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Capitalization
To be classified: * Basque * Catalan * Estonian * Hungarian * Icelandic * Indonesian * Latvian * Lithuanian * Malay * Moksha * Norwegian * Occitan * Portuguese * Romanian * Sorbian * Tatar * Turkish * Walloon * Welsh
Please, complete this list.
Thanks, Yann
Yann Forget wrote:
Hi
I creayed this page on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Capitalization
To be classified:
....
Please, complete this list.
Shouldn't we add even all the other languages where we already know how capitalisation needs to be? maybe creating a similar table:
Language - Language names - Days - Months - Planets - etc. German - Upper - Upper - Upper - Upper Italian - lower - lower - lower - Upper etc.
This could then become a general reference for all - in particular new wiktionaries who just would "like to know". Or people having a doubt that would like to check things out and maybe correct errors.
It's just an idea ... as I was wondering about the names of the days in French - now I now the must be lower case, but whoever inserted the French names on the Italian wiktionary just copied and pasted - so the error is for sure multiplied also on other wiktionaries. This means I need to correct this on the Italian one and then check on the Japanese wiktionary where they seem to come from.
I have the same doubts for Spanish, Esperanto, Turkish and Galician.
Frequent errors are made when people create new words with multi language translations taking a word from wikipedia and following the links - since wikipedias don't make difference between upper and lower case in their header - it seems as if some people just copy and paste this without veryfying if the same word within the text is capitalised or not. I noted this problem when searching for Christmas terminology on different wikipedias to create a link-page with all contents available I can find on wiktionary/wikipedia.
And I'd like to take this occasion to once again check out the project with the Christmas wishes here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Buon_Natale_e_felice_Anno_Nuovo%21 Please don't forget that recordings of "Merry Christmas and a happy New Year" in many different languages are very important to promote the use of commons in order to allow us to make wiktionary a "speaking" wiktionary.
Ciao, Sabine
Sabine Cretella wrote:
Yann Forget wrote:
Hi
I creayed this page on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Capitalization
To be classified:
....
Please, complete this list.
Shouldn't we add even all the other languages where we already know how capitalisation needs to be? maybe creating a similar table:
Language - Language names - Days - Months - Planets - etc. German - Upper - Upper - Upper - Upper Italian - lower - lower - lower - Upper etc.
This could then become a general reference for all - in particular new wiktionaries who just would "like to know". Or people having a doubt that would like to check things out and maybe correct errors.
It's just an idea ... as I was wondering about the names of the days in French - now I now the must be lower case, but whoever inserted the French names on the Italian wiktionary just copied and pasted - so the error is for sure multiplied also on other wiktionaries. This means I need to correct this on the Italian one and then check on the Japanese wiktionary where they seem to come from.
I have the same doubts for Spanish, Esperanto, Turkish and Galician.
Frequent errors are made when people create new words with multi language translations taking a word from wikipedia and following the links - since wikipedias don't make difference between upper and lower case in their header - it seems as if some people just copy and paste this without veryfying if the same word within the text is capitalised or not. I noted this problem when searching for Christmas terminology on different wikipedias to create a link-page with all contents available I can find on wiktionary/wikipedia.
And I'd like to take this occasion to once again check out the project with the Christmas wishes here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Buon_Natale_e_felice_Anno_Nuovo%21 Please don't forget that recordings of "Merry Christmas and a happy New Year" in many different languages are very important to promote the use of commons in order to allow us to make wiktionary a "speaking" wiktionary.
I totally agree, on my Google search to complete the list (which didn't yield very much as a result for the language names) I did encounter interesting info about the other kinds of words that may or not be capitalized. At least I found which languages don't have the concept of capitalization...
Polyglot
Hi Erdal,
Le Thursday 25 November 2004 15:39, Erdal Ronahi a écrit :
So the generic question is "which languages captialize their language and ethnic pronouns?"
Turkish does.
Since you know Turkish, could you confirm what is the translation for Hindi ? I believe it is "Hintçe", and "Hindu" is people following the hinduism faith.
Greetings, Erdal
Thanks, Yann
Yann Forget schrieb:
Hi Erdal,
Le Thursday 25 November 2004 15:39, Erdal Ronahi a écrit :
So the generic question is "which languages captialize their language and ethnic pronouns?"
Turkish does.
Since you know Turkish, could you confirm what is the translation for Hindi ? I believe it is "Hintçe", and "Hindu" is people following the hinduism faith.
I agree. That's correct. Hindu is one person, though. Not a plural. Plural is "Hindular"
You're welcome
Hi,
Someone mentioned the following links. That's very useful.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2003-10/msg00046.html http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/dropbox/C-sharp-LocaleNames.html
Yann
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