Hi Noe, Thank you very much for your reply. Great slides! Did you have a related assignment for the students? It would be great if you could send me the editable slides; my French is really rusty and I need to Google-translate some of them. Best, Reem < http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&… Virus-free. www.avg.com < http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&… <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 13:51, Noé Gasparini &lt;noe.gasparini(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi > I'll be happy to help you. I recently made a 6h class on French Wiktionary > for Master's students on lexicography. My slides are here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cours_sur_le_Wiktionnaire_francopho… > I can send you the editable slides if you want, but French and English > Wiktionaries are quite diferents. You will have to adapt the course a lot. > Cheers, > Noé > Le sam. 9 mars 2019 12:24, Reem Al-Kashif &lt;reemalkashif(a)gmail.com&gt; a > écrit : > > Hello! > > > Hope this finds you well. I am teaching Lexicography to junior university > > students this semester. What are ways I can incorporate Wikitionary in > the > > syllabus? > > > The idea I have now is to make them complete a project on Wikitionary by > > adding entries to it. I think it would be awesome for them to see their > > project alive and not buried in heaps of paper in my drawers. > > > Your input is highly appreciated. > > > Best, > > Reem > > > -- > > > *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif* > > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&… > > > > Virus-free. > > www.avg.com > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&… > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiktionary-l mailing list > > Wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wiktionary-l mailing list > Wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l -- *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif* _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l

The desirability of new entries varies according to which language Wiktionar(y/ies) will host the efforts, which language the entries will be in and which language is the native language of the students. Specifically, for English language words on English Wiktionary, coverage is high. There are still many new words to be added, but to reward students for new entries may create pressure to add obscure words with marginal attestation. On the other hand, entry quality is very uneven. Comparing to the OED or the "unabridged" print dictionaries, some entries seem to be too many definitions, some too few. Definitions may use words that themselves are dated, archaic, obsolete, or in an inappropriate registers. The layout of entries is fairly consistent, but is regularly criticized. At English Wiktionary, we have almost no knowledge about who our actual users are and how they use Wiktionary. The initial impressions of articulate users would be valuable to regular contributors to Wiktionary. I would be happy to discuss this further. Off-list would probably be more appropriate than on-list. On 3/9/2019 6:23 AM, Reem Al-Kashif wrote: the _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l

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Hello! @Noe thank you! Take your time :) Ideally, I think I would like each student to spend 5 hours on the project. This could change in group projects scheme. @Dennis Thank you! I have been an editor on Wikipedia since 2012 but never really edited Wikitionary, as far as I remember. So, the info you provided is really useful in designing a project task. The students native language is Arabic and they are majoring in translation between Arabic and English. I asked the students before about Wikitionary, and they seem to have come across it before but they don't know much about it. @Valerio Thank you! Glad you find the discussion useful. Best, Reem On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 17:06, Valerio Barbaking &lt;wiki.barbaking(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: that who ha coverage regular in their Valerio.iannucci84 -- *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif* _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l

Hello! Several years (2013-2017) my students (Petrozavodsk State University) edited and created articles in Russian Wiktionary. During the course: 1) We discussed the corpus linguistics. 2) Study the Russian National Corpus, and how to search good examples of sentences for the dictionary. 3) Learn the structure of the Wiktionary entry (article). This page in ruwikt (https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/Участник:AKA_MBG/wordlist) describes the task and lists the students with assigned words. I will translate it briefly: The task for the students is to create a good article in native language (Russian), namely: 0) Students select the words, which are absent in the Russian Wiktionary, or words, which have empty section "Meaning". I provide students with the list of such words. 1) Meaning. Take two or more solid (usually paper) dictionaries and compile the description of the sense. If this is new word, then provide good usage examples in order to validate your meaning. (Teacher lists titles of good dictionaries.) 2) Find in the online corpus (e.g. in Russian National Corpus) good usage examples and add them to your Wiktionary article. Two or three examples for each meaning. 3) Fill all sections of the Wiktionary entry (really all, even categories), except an etymology, since the etymology section is very complex part (at least in Russian Wiktionary). 4) Make audio for your words (phrase) and upload it to the Commons. We recorded audio at the lesson, I brought the good quality microphone to the class. It was the most fun lesson in the course :) Not every student selected respectable words for the work. Professional editors of the Russian Wiktionary are invited to supervise the student work. It saves students and helps to the teacher :) This editing of Wiktionary were done by student at home. In the class one or two students show their results (in public, with projector) and we discussed the common errors in order to prevent these errors in the work of other students. I have tried do not edit the Wiktionary entries itself, and I wrote all my comments to the students at the corresponding talk pages. P.S. Now the editing Wiktionary is additional task for not successful students. The first place for my research with students is Wikiversity and Wikidata, see https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Research_in_programming_Wikidata Best regards, Andrew Krizhanovsky User:AKA MBG _______________________________________________ Wiktionary-l mailing list Wiktionary-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l