Hmmm ... I know for sure that Gerard is not the only one believing in this project - there are language professionals, like me, who want this - there are more possibilities you can even imagine - and I am not going to outline them here or anywhere else as it is far too difficult to understand if people don't even understand what the UW basically is about - the inital idea was saving time and effort, creating one place where to work instead of repeating the same work on 70+ different wiktionaries around (I hope the number is correct). Then step by step other contacts with organisations and of course people came up and this lead to further thinking, to additional features etc. And it is not finished here.
Ultimate Wiktionary is real - it is a fact and it will have success.
The planning of this project on wiktionary started last year in August - for some of us even sooner, since we had this view in mind for months/years - Gerard had an idea and implemented it with the use of templates - and I had a very similar idea, but did not know how to create what I wanted to create - so I just sat down and learned how to do. There's a Farsi speaking colleague in Canada who tried similar stuff - there are dictionary projects around that have in part what UW will have in the end. The combination of Mediawiki + Wikidata will allow for a real astonishing project.
Of course there will be some inexpected problems, like with every project ... wasn't wiktionary born out of a problem to wikipedians who did not want lexicological data?
Problems are there to be solved - and if you want to, if you really want to, you can always find the solution. And if this should depend from me: I definitely want to find the solution. It is part of my everyday work
Oh ... and as for the stub thingie ... if I now would like to complete a word adding for example a definition I don't know which are these words - I have to search in hundreds (or thousands) of words ... this is a waist of time. Using wikidata with a relational database in combination with mediawiki I will be able to see which are the German/Italian words that need a definition, I will have the possibility to search for example for all German words where the gender is missing (you just need a database query) - contributing will become much easier, take less time, become more qualified +++++.
Ido: I had a look at this project - they started to upload things - unfortunately the capitalisation is not off and this could create problems, but I suppose they have the data as tables and upload with a bot. So it could be data to be included easily in UW and it will be easy to start editing the missing parts and so the stub-time will be over very, very soon.
Isn't the real reason for so many negative comments that people are worrying about all the work they have done more than twice? Isn't it true that some of us repeatedly tried to explain that Wiktionary like it is/was at this/that stage is 80% metadata and wastes lots of time of contributing members?
You see: most innovations are seen as an intrusion - this is normal - it will take time for people to accept that there is more than just a normal wiki for lexicological content.
UW is going ahead - it will work - we will make it work.
Sorry, if I am maybe a bit too harsh - but starting to doubt about a project now ... it is a bit late to my opinion. Instead of doubting and trying to see negative I would like to kindly in vite you to give constructive contributions - ideas on what to implement, ask if this or that is already implemented. Help to create structures and help to make sure that the work you did is not going to be wasted..
Thank you and have a great day!
Sabine
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