Thank you Karl,
I also found out about that other project, but your query is very helpful for me.
One major difference between the two seems to me that, as I have seen in papers but to be confirmed, the Dbnary version don't handle yet links to other datasets (eventhough they talk about LLOD), whereas DBPedia-wiktionary does have links to DBPedia at least.
Any other information would be appreciated, as you said. Thanks Fabian
On 2014-11-30 at 12:21 PM, in message CAJnUJyiHkAkJRb=WOWhqbA3SXUHFPZtc1_rv1JnRfUTSshZVuA@mail.gmail.com, Karl Bartel karl42@gmail.com wrote:
The results on dbnary (http://kaiko.getalp.org/sparql) look better for this case:
PREFIX dbnary: http://kaiko.getalp.org/dbnary# PREFIX eng: http://kaiko.getalp.org/dbnary/eng/ PREFIX lexvo: http://lexvo.org/id/iso639-3/ PREFIX lemon: http://www.lemon-model.net/lemon#
SELECT DISTINCT ?def_value ?written_trans WHERE { ?lexform lemon:writtenRep "Suisse"@fr . ?lexentry lemon:canonicalForm ?lexform ; lemon:sense ?sense . ?sense lemon:definition ?def . ?def lemon:value ?def_value OPTIONAL { ?trans dbnary:isTranslationOf ?lexentry ; dbnary:targetLanguage lexvo:deu ; dbnary:writtenForm ?written_trans . } }
Any comments on the differences between dbnary and dbpedia-wiktionary are welcome. It's quite time consuming to judge the projects as an outsider.
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Fabian Cretton Fabian.Cretton@hevs.ch wrote:
Hi all,
And first of all thank you for that great news (to me) of an RDF version of wiktionary.
For my first trials, I am willing to retrieve translations of words between French and German. I did manage to get "random" translations following the SPARQL examples.
But then I tried a more specific search to find translation of Suisse (Switzerland in english), and couldn't find the translation. I then simplified the query to: ?swordRes rdfs:label "Suisse"@fr . optional{?swordRes terms:hasTranslation ?twordRes }.
with no result for ?twordRes.
However, I can see many translations on this original page: http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Suisse
And then this also happened with other words I tried, as Valais (a swiss canton). Maybe I am not familiar enough yet with the ontology ?
By the way, I can't access: http://wiktionary.dbpedia.org/page/dog which gives me: Execution of "/DAV/VAD/dbpedia/description.vsp" failed.SQL Error: 37000 SQ074: Line 272: syntax error at ')' before 'order' thank you for your help Fabian
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