Hoi!
We are quite capable to say what we have to say.
Sometimes I feel we are not :) I get the recurrent impression that whatever we say both sides just hit the "reply" button and copy back what they had said before...
So, for all who are blind/deaf: I have said it and will repeat it all over again: no consensus = no nothing. We will not go and impose a new script on a place where a civil war just ended simply to make the nerves of a couples of extremists happier. If and when there is a clear signal that the communities as a whole are in favor of the merge we can start to talk about tech details.
This "clear signal" includes stopping idiot mumbling about why any of the two sides has no right to exist and how you are going to tell the teacher that my mom was a nazist/communist if we don't buy you candies. We all have been kids and we all know what blackmailing is. Well, it won't work.
Just as it won't work hiding behind someone else and shouting "see? I told you you'd be punished!" (this one's for Mark, in case it's not clear). Since lots of people behave as 4 y.o. kids, I'll try the language lil' babies usually understand.
IS THAT CLEAR NOW? Or should we publish it in a multimedia hyerogliphic text with the Bangles playing underneath??
Now I switch my waiting mode on and keep waiting for a message beginning with: "My constructive position is <add MO-RO ideological crap here>".
Bèrto ‘d Sèra Personagi dl’ann 2006 për l’arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojàotri) http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:14 PM To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Conspicuous only in its absence (was Moldavian)
Mark, It is not helpful if you repeat after us. You make it seem as if we agree with a side in this affair. We have not considered if we would accept it as a new project. What is at issue here is very much that the mo.wikipedia is an existing project, there are some people who care for it and the arguments used for its closure are not really acceptable.
The optimal solution from our pov is that the mo.wikipedia is cleaned up and that the data of both ro and mo are merged. The first step for this to happen is to coexist peacefully. Your behaviour does not help.
There is the option of a transliteration engine. This is however not available at this time. Optimally it should allow for round trip conversion.
Thanks, Gerard
On 3/12/07, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps you have not been following this list.
Do you think Gerard or Bèrto really care who it is making these arguments? To them, you and Liviu may as well be the same person because you are saying the same things. Over and over.
They have said over and over that the position that they have already described is FINAL. They did not "misunderstand" anything, they did not miss any of the facts or the evidence.
Just because they do not agree with your personal interpretation of reality does not mean they need you to "tell them the facts". They have already heard what you have to say, and it has already been evaluated. Many times.
The suggestion was, originally made to Liviu: Go to ro.wp and start a poll there about adding an option to convert to Cyrillic. In the mean time, stop complaining. Their idea is that eventually such an option MIGHT exist, but only if ro.wp community successfully integrates it of its own free will, NOT on the decision of some random single user.
If you can get the majority of Ro.wp'ians to agree to a converter in the style of sr.wp (meaning that content may be edited and added in Cyrillic as well), then this discussion may proceed. If you cannot, it is over.
Nobody wants to hear any of this anymore. Haven't you understood that by now?
Mark
On 10/03/07, Jacky PB dpotop1@yahoo.com wrote:
Concerning your invitation to work, which is insulting:
- Don't you working guys have civility rules around
here any more? 2. Does your work consist in giving uncivil answers to messages you didn't read, sent by a user that did not send messages on this forum in the last 3 months? Because both you and GerardM answered my message without reading it. Or, if you read it, it may be useful to interrupt working for thinking a bit.
Dpotop
--- Berto 'd Sera albertoserra@ukr.net wrote:
Hoi!
My constructive position
So... It was told to Liviu, it gets told to YOU. It will be duly copied to all of you, as an auto answer.
- WHO of you spammers has found the time to call up
a regular vote on RO.wiki on becoming fully bilingual and giving warranties of acceptance of articles by the Transdnistrian minority? 2) Who of you will prove clever enough to do that BEFORE littering our mailboxes with your carnival?
Until you answer to that ANY Moldavian position (pro Cyrillic/anti-cyrillic/Acyrillic or whatever) will be just low quality toilet paper for my house. Or do you guys seriously think that we want to start a big internal war in RO.wiki just to please a couple of hysterical kids?
You want to make a change in someone else's house. You go there and ask the landlord for permission, before coming up here with your emotional scenes. It's called "respect" and "private property" in case you aren't familiar with the terms.
All the tears in the universe won't make a difference. GO TO WORK! No work, no consideration.
Bèrto 'd Sèra Personagi dl'ann 2006 për l'arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojàotri)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
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