I agree with Yann, simply reopening this encyclopedia until an agreement or a final decision is made will only bring back the chronic problems that haunted the project in the past (i.e. vandalism, trolling). Furthermore, I believe that the political question has to be removed from the discussion regarding practical considerations. What I mean is that unless sufficient support is garnered for the project, discussions regarding whether how to implement the new system are premature. I believe that this was the problem with the initial launch of the Mo project, there was too little constructive support in the beginning, and that as a result the portal served only as an arena for trolls. Therefore, I believe that this time it might be best to keep the projected isolated for some time (in the incubator perhaps) until there will be proof of enough support to demonstrate the potential for growth of the encyclopedia (i.e. more than one user).
Yann Forget yann@forget-me.net wrote: Hello,
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Andre Engels schreef:
On the Moldavian Wikipedia it says for over a month "This wiki has been closed for now." Is there any outlook on whether 'for now' means 'for ever' or that it will be re-opened at some time? I am asking because I want to know what to do with the interwiki for the bot. If the wiki is closed down for good, I intend to remove them silently; if it will be opened up again some time soon, I want to keep them in the same way as to 'normal' Wikipedias.
Hoi, The closure was done without the consent of the board. The language
I think that part of the problem is that the mess exists *because* the power-to-be (board, language committee, whatever...) let the situation deteriorates untill it got unmanageable. I hope that we will learn from this.
committee was asked to formulate an opinion, it is not of the opinion that the current situation is good. We proposed that this wiki would be reopened and that discussions would start on how the Moldovan and the Romanian Wikipedia can work together. An essential part of the time frame that will exist before this merger is that any vandalism will result in a ban for all the projects that such a person is involved in.
It is particularly the vandalism that made the huha around the Moldovan Wikipedia so unpalatable.
An agreement has to be found *before* the project to re-open. Some procedures, some admins / bureaucrats (I would suggest at least two native speakers, one using Latin script and one using Cyrillic script) and a mediation committee are needed before reopening.
I don't want to play Wikipedia task force again on a working project.
Thanks, GerardM
Regards,
Yann