Also important, in my mind, is this: nobody argues that simply not participating in a Wikipedia you don't like is bad, but would it be right of us to override popular support of language-speaking Wikipedians and deny creation of these Wikipedias citing a desire for "linguistic unity" in a move that would be more expected of Gongchandang/Gungchaandong/Kongchetaz than Weijidang/Waigeidong/Viqitaz?
Mark
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 05:47:09 -0500, Henry H. Tan-Tenn share2002nov@lomaji.com wrote:
Andrew Lih ti 2005/2/2 EP 10:35 sia-kong:
To me, that means encouraging most of the labour towards making a "Mandarin" Wikipedia. As a side effect, Wikipedia can be an experiment in Internet democracy or a way to preserve/promote languages. But the primary goal should be to write an encyclopedia.
One done in Mandarin will benefit over 1 billion people who simply don't have a good free encyclopedia, in both senses of the word - free as in beer, and free as in freedom. The faster we get there, the better. And I don't think that's a selfish notion.
No, but it is a statement of (nationalist?) faith in the ubiquity and all-empowering contemporary relevance of Mandarin to today's Chinese population, one not necessarily backed by empirical evidence and ordinary experience. A recent well-publicized Chinese-government study, for example, claims that only half of the Chinese population are capable of speaking Mandarin ("neng2 shuo1 Pu3tong1hua4"; http://www.beijingtimes.com.cn/news.asp?newsid=88058). This is likely to be shocking only to those who never venture outside of the circles of urban, well-educated elite (of whom the Chinese Wikipedia can count many members).
That is not to deny that a Chinese encyclopedia to benefit millions is not a worthwhile goal. Only that we should not delude ourselves of the power and grandeur of such a project which, after all, serves but one language -- one spoken by hundreds of millions but nevertheless hardly the primary, everyday language of millions more. And that is assuming a very high literacy level, which again is supported neither by studies nor our experience interacting with those outside of the elite classes. (To be sure, Wikipedia could be voice-recorded, by human or machine, or printed for the millions and millions too impoverished to own a PC, but these media require more expensive -- not to mention, censorship-prone -- means of presentation and delivery.)
Unfortunately it is all too common for both non-Chinese and Chinese alike to imagine a kind of monolithic, timeless cultural norm, be it to serve nationalism or to depict a simplistic other (see B. Anderson's "Imagined Community"; Said's "Orientalism"), rather than engaging with the reality on the ground. Ultimately Wikipedians should not fall prey to such imagination.
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