The Arbcom cannot and should not exclude _advocates_, but it would have good grounds to exclude _advocacy_, because that is hardly if ever NPOV. If someone spends a large part of their Wikipedia time in an area where after repeated attempts they do not seem to be willing and able to write NPOV, I think arbitration could step in to forbid them from editing on that subject.
However, such should be judged from the extent to which their POV hinders their NPOV editing, not from the nature of the POV they are editing from. Although it can hardly be avoided that we put the bar higher for people with a more extreme and uncommon POV, this to me means that we should encourage those who manage to pass that higher bar and compliment them. I would be happy to see a neonazi write about the major groups and leaders in their field.
Andre Engels
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:01:01 -0700, Fred Bauder fredbaud@ctelco.net wrote:
The Arbcom cannot exclude an advocate of totalitarianism or terrorism under our current policies, indeed, we cannot even accept a case on that basis alone. The user must go beyond advocacy and violate NPOV, make personal attacks, delete encyclopedic material, attempt to dominate a block of articles with aggressive POV editing, etc. before we can accept a case or even issue a mild rebuke. A polite thoughtful neo-nazi is welcome to edit under our current policies.
The Arbcom has a few critics who think we do otherwise, but while there is prejudice against these folks once they fall into our clutches we do more or less follow expressed Wikipedia policy.
Fred
From: "Tony Sidaway" minorityreport@bluebottle.com Reply-To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:37:50 -0000 (GMT) To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] NSM88, deletion of user page image, personal attacks
Fred Bauder said:
In my opinion we should change that policy and permit exclusion of open advocates of totalitarian ideologies and terrorism.
Why? ArbCom can already exclude anybody who misbehaves. The policy as you're described it is also subject to interpretation. The words "totalitarian" and "terrorism" are both very slippery.
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