I thought it would be created also...there was quite a bit of support when I originally proposed the idea, and then everyone started talking about Chinese and Gothic. The only reason I heard against it is that someone didn't feel like it. But, what about all the wikis with less than 10 articles? Looks like they don't feel like it either.
I looked, and the Afar, Armenian, Assamese, Aymara, Bashkir, Bengali, Bhojpuri, Bislama, Burmese, Dzongkha, Fijian, Georgian, Greenlandic, Gujarati, Kannada, Kashmiri, Kazakh, Khmer, Kyrgiz, Lao, Lojban, Quechua, Manx, Nepali, Oriya, Oromo, Panjabi, Pashtu, Rumansh, Sardinian, Setswana, Somali, Sindhi, Sotho, Tajik, Telugu, Tibetan, Tongan, Tsonga, Turkmen, Twi, Uighur, and Xhosa have 10 or fewer articles. Are those who thought little of Gothic or Anglo-Saxon going to look again at those wikis?
Just a thought.
James
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark Williamson Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:50 PM To: wikipedia-l@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Starting a new wiki
Well, you have a number of different options.
The first and probably best would be to go to Wikipedia forks such as Wikinfo and mcfly (ok, maybe not mcfly) and tell them how the folks at the Wikimedia organisation are... well, describe your plight. Some forks really hate the Wikimedia foundation and will feel very sorry for you and assist you with such a project, whereas others seem to be meant more to augment Wikipedia and their users still contribute to Wikipedia on a regular basis.
Another option would be to pay for private hosting and set up the MediaWiki software yourself, which I can tell you is not going to be very pleasant if you're not experienced in setting up server-side apps. You could probably also hire somebody to maintain the software for you (often hosting companies will offer such services), but that's just another additional cost.
The only other option I can think of at the moment is to use one of the free wiki hosts available on the internet. Let me tell you in advance, they all suck. Really, really suck. But obviously, they are free so you don't have to pay anybody as you would in the second scenario.
best, node
ps I thought the final decision was to go ahead and create ang:?
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:36:25 -0400, James R. Johnson modean52@comcast.net wrote:
So, in the interest of the Anglo-Saxon wikipedia, how do I, personally,
set
it up outside the wikimedia foundation, so that I can get it started?
James
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Evan Prodromou Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:16 AM To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Starting a new wiki
Tim Starling wrote:
People underestimate the cost involved in setting up a wiki.
Once again I'd like to point out that having a language-specific Wikipedia is not usually the best way to organize, promote, or develop a language.
It's probably much better for a group of interested people working on a small or endangered language to set up a general-purpose wiki that encompasses the Wikimedia ideas of a Wikipedia, Wiktionary, a language-learning Wikibook, and perhaps a few other community- or discussion-oriented purposes.
There are a _lot_ of free or low-cost PHP hosting services that can host a wiki. Mediawiki can be hard to set up on these services, since MySQL usually
costs
significantly more, but there are a number of other wiki engines* that
work
with flat files and don't require a database.
Anyways: I think the best strategy is to tell people who want to have a Wikipedia in their language to go start a wiki somewhere else. If they can show that they have a robust community that can support a Wikipedia, then they should get an xx.wikipedia.org domain (as well as other xx.wikisomething.org stuff).
~ESP
- I can hear it now: "Huh? There are other wiki engines? There are other
wikis? I can set up my own? Huh?"
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