Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote in large part:
Toby Bartels wrote:
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
at least in Europe people were able to stop caring about the church without changing their beliefs much.
Well, if Europeans manage to believe in God without giving power to the Church,
It's wrong to say that most Europeans believe in god or that they don't - most don't give a shit either way.
So back when the Church had a lot of power in Europe, do you think that even then most Europeans didn't give that shit? Or do you think that no longer giving a shit isn't much of a change? It seems to me that opinions have probably changed a lot, but I was willing to accept what you said.
They managed to see the real question and answered it "no" - they aren't going to give church any powers.
Good! And please don't think that I prefer what Americans have done. I still don't see what this has to do with what we were talking about, which is applying NPOV to various differing beliefs.
-- Toby