It was just an example. I was citing the English Wikipedia as an example because I frequent it the most, but my point was, why was such a useful change not mentioned anywhere on any Wikipedia? (I didn't even ask for the discussions to occur on any particular language's Wikipedia - that was putting words in my mouth.) Wouldn't announcing it make changes go more smoothly? I never implied this should be discussed on any Wikipedia. Note that the English Community Portal often links to meta discussions. If the change is as useful (or not) as it is, it should have at least been linked to on every Wikipedia so that people could have a chance to weigh in at meta, or at least be informed.
As for clandestine activities, that was another, well, I think you can only call it strawmanning. I never mentioned their names - I think highly of Jimbo and Angela (I don't know Anthere well enough). It's just rather odd and a bit annoying that the majority of editors who could and would benefit from this still aren't informed, because they don't subscribe to the mailing list.
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
John Lee wrote:
The sentiment is dittoed here. I don't have a clue what all this hoo-ha is about, but that fact alone seems to suggest that something clandestine occurred. From what I understand, this is something that, if worked out correctly, *could* be beneficial to all the Wikipedias. So why haven't I heard anything about this on en.wikipedia.org? It's not even on the Community Portal. And the fact that someone as even-headed as mav is even thinking about quitting makes me wonder just what's going on.
John Lee ([[User:Johnleemk]] on En)
Christopher Mahan wrote:
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Not hearing things on en:wikipedia is akin to not hearing it on nl:wikipedia. En:wikipedia may be the biggest wikipedia, it is not the platform for discussions regarding Mediawiki. It is Meta's purpose to discuss these things. The suggestion that something "clandestine" occured does speak of little respect for the integrity of people like Jimbo, Angela, Anthere ..
Thanks, GerardM