On 22/06/05, Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Williamson a écrit:
Hi Anthere,
Unfortunately, there isn't really a mo.wiki "community".
It's more like, a group of two or three core individuals working on the project, and another 2 or 3 "mo.wiki hagglers" -- people who keep complaining on talkpages that the Wikipedia should be deleted.
Incidentally, the "hagglers" also believe that "there is no such thing as a Moldovan language", and until recently they were all editing anonymously. None of them has any edits to content pages.
The current problem is, what rights should go to what users? If we let the "hagglers" vote, they will possibly nominate one of themselves, vote him in, and then sabotage the Wikipedia using their newfound sysop privelages.
Well, I am not sure what "haggler" mean, but I guess this is not a gentle term :-)
Now that I think about it again, I meant a sort of combination of "haggler" (somebody who aggressively argues to try to reach an agreement, often related to the price of merchandise), and "heckler", meaning "to challenge aggressively" in a sense, to sort of jab and harass and embarass...
Neither of them is exactly an "unkind" word, though.
I'd say only those with an account can vote. And a rule such as at least 1 month and a certain number of real articles can make the trick.
However, I must confess, as one external to your conflict, this sounds like "all those agreeing with me are good editors, all others are hagglers".
This isn't really the case. Danutz aims for deletion of mo.wiki, yet he has been registered for a long time, and has edited content pages a few times. Ronline strives for neutrality in his own ideas; he has been registered for a while, and has contributed some content in Cyrillic even though he didn't learn it in school (for him, it is a fun activity).
Vertaler has been registered for a while, and edited content pages a lot. His position is not entirely clear, but he hasn't been active for a long time now.
Other than this, I can't think of any "core" users. So, the variances in opinion among the "core" users are extreme, Danutz is inclined to vote against me in any circumstance.
If we let the "core" vote only, then we run the risk of being "undemocratic".
Also, according to Ronline's proposal, I will remain a sysop "temporarily" to translate the interface, whether or not I am voted in.
Mark
This strikes me as reasonably democratic solution ;-)
Hmmm, a question... does the issue of whether to use Cyrillic as an influence in any way in the translation of the interface ?
I don't think so. Currently, the plan is to use both Cyrillic and Latin in the interface, ie with a separate translation for each script.
My changes to the interface didn't seem at all controversial.
Mark