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2006/3/7, Jacky PB dpotop1@yahoo.com:
Mark,
Whether or not you are fluent in Moldovan is extremely important here, because you are the unique contributor. You created mo.wiki, you copied (from ro.wiki) most articles, and you, alone, are fighting for it. Given that this wiki is by you and for you, it could be justified as a hobby. But there are two problems: you do not seem to learn Moldovan and you promote old stalinist linguistic policies that hurt people's feelings. It still is a mystery to me how an American came to profess such conservative communist linguistic policies.
And, BTW, you called me a liar earlier, but you somehow failed to mention a single Moldovan editor (i.e. one that claims to be Moldovan) that supports your views.
Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:> You excel in hiding important issues under details. Fact is that Romanian/Moldovan is complex, and that you cannot write Moldovan correctly.
Whether or not the language(s) is/are complex is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. Also, my abilities (or alleged lack thereof) aren't particularly relevant to the discussion.
Concerning your claim that Moldovans are not Moldovans, it's pure FUD.
If you want to continue in the same direction, please provide proof of your existence, and that you are not a KGB/FSB agent. :)
I never claimed that "Moldovans are not Moldovans". What I did claim is that those people who claim on Wikipedia to be Moldovans have not substantiated their identity in the least, with the exception of Pavel.
As concerns the "Moldovan" schools of Transnistria, you forgot to tell
that Moldovans there are forced to go to these schools, and that their attempts to open latin-scripted schools were crushed by security forces.
No -- there are schools that teach in Latin. However, they are forced to operate as private schools and do not receive support from the state. There are two Latin-script highschools and a total of 8% of Transnistrian kids go to Latin-script schools. There are also 14 Moldavian schools (total), using Cyrillic, and 2 Moldavian-Russian bilingual schools.
The Romanian press was happy to report when schools were closed, on the front page, but when some were re-opened (as private institutions), it was much farther back.
Mark
Mark Williamson wrote: > Sorry for not replying to Mark's emails, but
I think that discussing
politics and whether Romanian or French has a grammar closer to Latin is off-topic on this list. :-)
That was a sub-topic of an e-mail. When replying to e-mails, you are more than welcome to ignore topics you find irrelevant.
Node, please do not accuse people for sockpuppetry without any evidence: when Pavel was on #wikipedia, he had an IP address of a .md ISP and since Freenode does not allow proxies, he really must be in Moldova.
Still, do you have evidence that any of the other so-called "Moldovans" are real people, in Moldova?
Also, we should not confuse this Romanian/Moldovan situation with other situations where it's the debate whether a dialect/close language should have a Wikipedia, like Scots/English or Serbian/Croat.
Nowadays, the dispute that "Moldovan" is different from "Romanian" is absurd: even Voronin, the Moldovan president said that they're the same language and just the name is different.
That's not really the issue here. What is the issue, is that 36% of Moldovans (excluding residents of Transnistria) claim "Moldovan" as their native language; the official script in Transnistria is Cyrillic, the official language in Transnistria is Moldavian (they still call it that in English officially in Transnistria, I think), and many schoolchildren in Transnistria/PMR/Stinga Nistrului go to "Moldavian schools", where the teaching is in Moldovan Cyrillic, or "Russian/Moldavian bilingual schools", where teaching time is divided between Russian, and Moldovan Cyrillic.
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